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  • dsmith710
    Rookie
    • Oct 2008
    • 381

    #1

    CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

    I'm doing a franchise where I'm basically in GM mode. I make all the team decisions but as far as games go, I watch them (CPU vs CPU). I'm 21 games in, and have had the same lineup every game. I was wondering if the CPU will ever adjust my lineup due to fatigue, or if it won't because I'm going into the game to watch?

    Normally, after the team select screen, you select your pitcher and then set your lineup. Well, since I do CPU vs CPU, at the team select screen I move the controller to the center and it just enters the game that way. No way for me to view fatigue/adjust lineups accordingly. I was hoping the CPU would take control of this. Also, in settings I have lineups/rotation set to Auto.

    Anyone who knows anything about this, help/info would be appreciated.
  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52843

    #2
    Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

    with how you have it setup, I would think the cpu would alter lineups based on fatigue (and possibly performance) on its own.
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    • armyofone
      Rookie
      • May 2009
      • 145

      #3
      Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

      I know this old, but perhaps the OP figured this out.

      I run my franchise the same way. Did you figure out any solution?

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      • Go Yankees
        Banned
        • Feb 2015
        • 187

        #4
        Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

        Im not sure if im reading this post correctly but couldnt you just go into the game as if your going to play with your team, switch the controller to your team, adjust lineups, start game then go into options and switch back to com vs com, im not sure because i dont play that mode but it sounds logical i guess....

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        • mfreder2
          Rookie
          • May 2003
          • 185

          #5
          Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

          Originally posted by Go Yankees
          Im not sure if im reading this post correctly but couldnt you just go into the game as if your going to play with your team, switch the controller to your team, adjust lineups, start game then go into options and switch back to com vs com, im not sure because i dont play that mode but it sounds logical i guess....
          That's what I do. I set the game to play game and set my lineups. Once in game I change the team back over to cpu control.

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          • armyofone
            Rookie
            • May 2009
            • 145

            #6
            Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

            Thanks, will do that. If you don't assign a controller before that game, it doesn't give the lineup screen. But I go to assign a controller, then check out the lineups and then exit out and go back and adjust my lineups for fatigue. Then run it as cpu vs cpu.

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            • kcsam
              Pro
              • Feb 2011
              • 676

              #7
              Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

              I asked this questions several months ago in the PS3 forum. Never got an answer to it.

              I, too, play CPU vs CPU mode. My lineup never changes in the games I watch. It only changes (based off fatigue and perfromance - I'm assuming) when I sim.

              So we have to go into the game as if we are playing it, set the lineups and then go back and make it CPU vs CPU? You'd think the CPU would update the lineup for you if you starting off as CPU vs CPU, but I guess that's not the case.

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              • My993C2
                MVP
                • Sep 2012
                • 1588

                #8
                Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

                Originally posted by kcsam
                I asked this questions several months ago in the PS3 forum. Never got an answer to it.

                I, too, play CPU vs CPU mode. My lineup never changes in the games I watch. It only changes (based off fatigue and perfromance - I'm assuming) when I sim.

                So we have to go into the game as if we are playing it, set the lineups and then go back and make it CPU vs CPU? You'd think the CPU would update the lineup for you if you starting off as CPU vs CPU, but I guess that's not the case.
                I play MoM games inside of Season mode and when time permits I also do a lot of CPU vs CPU games for the other 29 teams in the league (I have my Season setup as 30 team user control). My observations in MLB 14 was that the CPU will indeed sub when players tire. The only thing is that threshold for when a CPU player tires is lower than the human controlled player. The CPU will allow their players to play more games before they finally get subbed versus when the game recommends to the human player that their players are tired and could use a rest on a given day. But rest assured the CPU will give their players the occasional day off.

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                • kcsam
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 676

                  #9
                  Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

                  Originally posted by My993C2
                  I play MoM games inside of Season mode and when time permits I also do a lot of CPU vs CPU games for the other 29 teams in the league (I have my Season setup as 30 team user control). My observations in MLB 14 was that the CPU will indeed sub when players tire. The only thing is that threshold for when a CPU player tires is lower than the human controlled player. The CPU will allow their players to play more games before they finally get subbed versus when the game recommends to the human player that their players are tired and could use a rest on a given day. But rest assured the CPU will give their players the occasional day off.
                  Good to know. Thanks for the info on that.

                  What do you mean by "when the game recommends.." in relation to rest due to fatigue? I've never seen that before. Maybe that's just a PS4 thing?

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                  • My993C2
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 1588

                    #10
                    Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

                    Originally posted by kcsam
                    What do you mean by "when the game recommends.." in relation to rest due to fatigue? I've never seen that before. Maybe that's just a PS4 thing?
                    It's not a PS4 thing. I remember it also happening in MLB 2013. Basically when you start a game and you are presenting with the batter's lineup screen. If a player is fatigued (somewhere in the 30% range), the game will tell you the player is tired and asks you if you want to sit them for this game. You can then choose to ignore the recommendation, or you could replace them.

                    PS: this does not happen in CPU vs CPU games.
                    Last edited by My993C2; 03-17-2015, 11:16 PM.

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                    • kcsam
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 676

                      #11
                      Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

                      Originally posted by My993C2
                      It's not a PS4 thing. I remember it also happening in MLB 2013. Basically when you start a game and you are presenting with the batter's lineup screen. If a player is fatigued (somewhere in the 30% range), the game will tell you the player is tired and asks you if you want to sit them for this game. You can then choose to ignore the recommendation, or you could replace them.

                      PS: this does not happen in CPU vs CPU games.
                      When I start a game regularly as if I am going to actually play, I see the meter that shows fatigue. When it's down low, I'd assume that is the time you'd want to sub the player out for a rest day, but I don't see anything where the game tells you the player is tired and asks if you want to sit them.

                      I wonder if this is a setting I have switched off? I don't recall a setting dealing with that.

                      Either way, you do say the CPU will sub out tired players in CPU vs CPU games, so that is what's important since that's how I play my franchise. Still just waiting to see the CPU sub someone out. The only time I see subs is in simulated games or if I go to the lineup section (outside of a game) and manually move someone to the bench or the CPU moves someone.

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                      • My993C2
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1588

                        #12
                        Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

                        As mentioned above I do play a lot of CPU vs CPU games in my Season mode for the other 29 teams when time permits and I have seen the CPU sub out tired players, albeit at a much lower threshold. Plus if you have not seen this message yet concerning the game recommending you rest a player, I really don't think it is a setting. I am guessing you just have not reached the threshold yet (it's somewhere around 30% before the game recommends you sit them). Plus in my MoM games, when I am involved in a blow out (either I am winning or losing big), I will rest some of my important players for the remainder of the game who may be approaching this threshold so that they are able to make the next start.

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                        • MikeThatDude21
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 10

                          #13
                          Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

                          I'm also wondering the same thing, I've seen the actual CPU team i'm playing against (well watching them CPU vs CPU) change the line-up but not my team. The only substitution I've seen is for pinch hitter or pinch runner, then after that inning substitution happens ( the players who pinch ran or hit comes in the game). So the message comes through the email system in the game? if you ignore this and go to the game and will they substitute for you?

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                          • My993C2
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1588

                            #14
                            Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

                            It's not an in game email message. The message I am referring to regarding the game informing you of tired players only applies to the team you are controlling prior to finalizing your lineup for a given game. It's just as if one of your players performs poorly against a lefty or right handed pitcher, sometimes the game recommends you sit them for that game as well. You will definitely not see these messages for a CPU controlled team and why would you. But I swear I am not on crack, I have seen the CPU teams sub in fatigued players albeit at a much lower threshold.

                            PS: I always control my teams through the "Manage Only Mode" also known as MoM and while I always assumed these messages also applied when people actually controlled their players in the game. Perhaps this is a MoM feature? Nah it can't be. Pretty sure I have seen Ramone mention these messages in the past and Ramone hates MoM ... haha.

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                            • MatrixTN
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1857

                              #15
                              Re: CPU vs CPU Franchise fatigue

                              Originally posted by My993C2
                              It's not an in game email message. The message I am referring to regarding the game informing you of tired players only applies to the team you are controlling prior to finalizing your lineup for a given game. It's just as if one of your players performs poorly against a lefty or right handed pitcher, sometimes the game recommends you sit them for that game as well. You will definitely not see these messages for a CPU controlled team and why would you. But I swear I am not on crack, I have seen the CPU teams sub in fatigued players albeit at a much lower threshold.

                              PS: I always control my teams through the "Manage Only Mode" also known as MoM and while I always assumed these messages also applied when people actually controlled their players in the game. Perhaps this is a MoM feature? Nah it can't be. Pretty sure I have seen Ramone mention these messages in the past and Ramone hates MoM ... haha.
                              As long as you are controlling a team (see lineup screen), you'll get the prompts.

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