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  • Mrmagoo
    Pro
    • Apr 2014
    • 669

    #16
    Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

    Originally posted by countryboy
    I would say that he decided to play for Toronto thinking he had a better opportunity to be an everyday player then.

    I for one like the idea that players just don't always sign for the most money on the table, and have other factors on their mind.
    Other factors on their mind? Now I would like that, especially if it was conveyed to the user. I tend to believe by the hap hazard way it usually happens it's actually a lack of anything on their mind.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52789

      #17
      Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

      Originally posted by DJeterFan2
      What sane person would leave over $175MM on the table? I guess I'm just bitter. There's always Carlos Gomez.
      Guys sign for less money sometimes. It happens.
      I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


      Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52789

        #18
        Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

        Originally posted by Mrmagoo
        Other factors on their mind? Now I would like that, especially if it was conveyed to the user. I tend to believe by the hap hazard way it usually happens it's actually a lack of anything on their mind.
        Whatever it is, its nice that the there are times that just because you have the most money, doesn't mean you always get the player.
        I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

        I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


        Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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        • Knight165
          *ll St*r
          • Feb 2003
          • 24964

          #19
          Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

          Originally posted by Mrmagoo
          Other factors on their mind? Now I would like that, especially if it was conveyed to the user. I tend to believe by the hap hazard way it usually happens it's actually a lack of anything on their mind.
          There is a factor with both player and coaches that they "don't like" certain teams. It's not pre built in......I'm not sure if it's random or there is a league wide trigger(you're stacking or some other cause for instance)....

          M.K.
          Knight165
          All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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          • countryboy
            Growing pains
            • Sep 2003
            • 52789

            #20
            Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

            Originally posted by Knight165
            There is a factor with both player and coaches that they "don't like" certain teams. It's not pre built in......I'm not sure if it's random or there is a league wide trigger(you're stacking or some other cause for instance)....

            M.K.
            Knight165
            I thought I remembered hearing this before, but didn't want to say without being 100% accurate.

            Thanks Knight!
            I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

            I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


            Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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            • tabarnes19_SDS
              Game Designer
              • Feb 2003
              • 3084

              #21
              Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

              Players are less likely to sign with you, if you have a "starter" capable player already at that position.

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              • Steven78
                Banned
                • Apr 2013
                • 7240

                #22
                Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

                Guys don't ever sign for that much less lol.

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                • countryboy
                  Growing pains
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 52789

                  #23
                  Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

                  Here's another question for the OP, how many years was Stanton looking for? I'm guessing another factor, or perhaps the factor, is that you were offering him 7 years whereas the Jays offered him 4 years.
                  I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                  I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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                  • Ghost Of The Year
                    Turn Left. Repeat.
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 6385

                    #24
                    Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

                    GM's make bad choices IRL, players make bad choices IRL.
                    Human logic can be flawed IRL, so really the Show is just replicating this lol
                    I really don't want a game programmed by Vulcans

                    Originally posted by tabarnes19
                    There sometimes feels to be no rhyme or reason since the team can be a perennial loser.
                    It would make me feel better about these flaws if SDS could set it up where Stanton would give his reason for going Toronto over LA, even if that reason seemed illogical.
                    T-BONE.

                    Talking about things nobody cares.

                    Screw Discord. Make OS Great Again.

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                    • Knight165
                      *ll St*r
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 24964

                      #25
                      Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

                      Originally posted by Steven78
                      Guys don't ever sign for that much less lol.
                      You don't think Mike Trout could have gotten well over 30+ mil per year if he hit the open market at 26?
                      Heck...he would have gotten 30-40 mil in arbitration in just a couple of years.

                      Yet he took 25 mil per.

                      Hmmmmm.....4 years at 100 million.....how much does that come out to?

                      Yeah...just the best player in the game.

                      M.K.
                      Knight165
                      All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                      • Steven78
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 7240

                        #26
                        Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

                        Lol nevermind.

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                        • DJeterFan2
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 387

                          #27
                          Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

                          FWIW he was looking for 4-6 years

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                          • braves_94
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 275

                            #28
                            Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

                            Originally posted by Knight165
                            You don't think Mike Trout could have gotten well over 30+ mil per year if he hit the open market at 26?
                            Heck...he would have gotten 30-40 mil in arbitration in just a couple of years.

                            Yet he took 25 mil per.

                            Hmmmmm.....4 years at 100 million.....how much does that come out to?

                            Yeah...just the best player in the game.

                            M.K.
                            Knight165
                            Angels had four years of team control on Trout. The most ever awarded in arbitration was to Posey for 17 million. He had an MVP, ROY, and World Series ring. Trout agreed upon a salary for his final two years of arbitration averaging 17.25 million. Then Trout signed an extension covering three of his free agency years for $100 million dollars. Which makes him the highest paid player in those years, in the bigs. So I ask, what discount? Even if Trout took a discount, which he almost certainty didn't, he faced four more years of team control and had the inability to negotiate a long term contract in the possible face of injury, on his own accord. Trout then would have a bigger reason to take a discount, as compared to Stanton who is in his free agency years. I purposely took out all the condescending language in my response, you know since this place is a sewer.
                            Last edited by braves_94; 09-07-2014, 02:09 PM.

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                            • Steven78
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 7240

                              #29
                              Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

                              Braves_94 thank you! Couldn't have said it better.

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                              • Knight165
                                *ll St*r
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 24964

                                #30
                                Re: FA Logic just as bad as trade logic?

                                Originally posted by braves_94
                                I purposely took out all the condescending language in my response, you know since this place is a sewer.
                                Sooooo close...but then you went ahead and opened up the manhole and jumped in headfirst anyway with this last line.

                                ...and past this contract renewable year....are you seriously saying the the Angels would have had "control" over Mike Trout?
                                IMO he would have crushed it in arbitration(I think he would have come close to doubling Posey's record deal) AND at least several teams would have uprooted a bank and drove it to Trout's house as soon as he hit the market.
                                Just as you say he could be injured....he also could hit .350 and 60 homers with 200 RBI.......then what would his 25 million per(average...really 24...but I'll give it to you) look like?


                                But we'll never know....because he gave the Angels a break.
                                No if's and's or but's.

                                M.K.
                                Knight165
                                All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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