Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (with

[Woodweaver]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

Seeing as no one else is taking videos of the issues going on in this year's iteration of the game, I'll use this topic to post all of my videos.

Here's one that just happened to me. Hard line drive to left. As you can see, Gardner runs over to the spot and the animation kicks in to catch the ball, until …

https://vimeo.com/105611850

This looks like a fielding error. Was it not scored that way?

[Woodweaver]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

Here's another one. This one is a grounder to first that the CPU tries to start a double play on. On the throw back from second, the ball bounces and skips away from the pitcher covering first. The first basemen sees it skip away and runs after it … unfortunately he's not running to where it is.. Keep an eye on the ball after it bounces.

https://vimeo.com/105611975

This issue was due to the base runner colliding/deflecting the ball after the initial deflection off the short hop. The 1Bman is trying to pick up at the first deflection. Either the ball should not allowed to deflect further if the 1Bman has already started to pick it up, or a new catch location should be calculated on subsequent deflections.


I'll pass it along.

[Woodweaver]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

Here's another one, this one happened to my friend yesterday.

He's the Angels. Pop up hit to first. Pujols camps under it and … it hits him in the head. Somehow though Pujols has the wherewithal to pick up the ball with plenty of time to get the runner at first. So he walks over to the bag and … stands there without touching the base. Runner safe..

https://vimeo.com/105663775

Looks like a misplayed pop up, and then the runner beats Pujols to the bag...unless Pujols never touched the bag (or did it too casually)...it's difficulty to say with the camera angle and playback speed of the replay in the video.

[Padgoi]

Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant befor...

waiting for someone to post the Canseco animation as a bug/glitch or has that already been posted lol

That happened once in 25 years. In the show it happens all the time. Please stop trying to defend the game with once in a million plays. It's not perfect. There are issues that need to be rectified. Defending the game with random occurrences that happened 25 years ago doesn't exactly build a solid foundation for your argument, good sir.

[Padgoi]

Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant befor...

This looks like a fielding error. Was it not scored that way?

It was scored that way.. That's not the point.. The user was there. The fielder was there. The game went into a wonky animation to make it look like an error. Errors should be made, but not unrealistic ones that turn into 3 base errors because the animation system is completely wonky.

[Padgoi]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

Looks like a misplayed pop up, and then the runner beats Pujols to the bag...unless Pujols never touched the bag (or did it too casually)...it's difficulty to say with the camera angle and playback speed of the replay in the video.

Again, I disagree. The fielder should automatically have his glove up ready to catch the ball.. That's what fielders do. They don't get to the location first, then lift their glove.. If they did this, the score of every game would be 47-42 because nothing would be caught. If you're going to continue using an animation-driven system, the fielders need to be in catching position PRIOR to actually reaching the location of the ball.

[Bobhead]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

It was scored that way.. That's not the point.. The user was there. The fielder was there. The game went into a wonky animation to make it look like an error. Errors should be because the user made a mistake, not because the game decided it was time to make an error and fabricate a 3 base error that is entirely unrealistic.

I don't necessarily agree with this. I mean the difficulty of tilting your analog stick towards a catch marker doesn't at all compare to the difficulty of actually fielding a ball. How would they normalize errors, and produce a realistic rate if some artificial difficulty were not inserted?

If errors were all "user only" then you would average like 20 errors a season.

[Padgoi]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

I don't necessarily agree with this. I mean the difficulty of tilting your analog stick towards a catch marker doesn't at all compare to the difficulty of actually fielding a ball. How would they normalize errors, and produce a realistic rate if some artificial difficulty were not inserted?



If errors were all "user only" then you would average like 20 errors a season.

Agree, I reworded that post because after reading it, it didn't sound accurate. Errors should be made, but not unrealistic ones that turn into absurd 3 base errors because the animation system is completely wonky.

[Bobhead]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

Agree, I reworded that post because after reading it, it didn't sound accurate. Errors should be made, but not unrealistic ones that turn into absurd 3 base errors because the animation system is completely wonky.

The animations could use some some work for sure, especially the "recovery" animations, that take place after an error has been "decided." It takes wayyyy too long for fielders to fix their mistakes. balls that roll forever after a bobble, etc...

I know sometimes balls get completely booted in real life, but sometimes the fielder picks the ball right up after a mistake, and still gets the out, too. I'd like to see more of the latter.

I'd also like to see errors distributed better. Too many routine plays end up with errors, not enough difficult plays end with errors. I'd like to see fewer errors on generic fly balls, and more errors on dives, hard grounders, barehands, everything fielded by the pitcher, backhands, etc...

[HustlinOwl]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant befor...

That happened once in 25 years. In the show it happens all the time. Please stop trying to defend the game with once in a million plays. It's not perfect. There are issues that need to be rectified. Defending the game with random occurrences that happened 25 years ago doesn't exactly build a solid foundation for your argument, good sir.

and I have still yet to see it, but nice try with all the time and the irony of this post

[Padgoi]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant befor...

and I have still yet to see it, but nice try with all the time and the irony of this post

You haven't seen it in this game? I just posted a video of it.

[HustlinOwl]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant befor...

You haven't seen it in this game? I just posted a video of it.

ball bouncing off the outfielder's head for a HR?? Sorry didnt see it

[Padgoi]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant befor...

A bit too literal, my friend.

Anyway, back on topic, I'll continue using this thread for any other videos I take. Probably won't get a chance to play again until Friday at the earliest.

[torpidbeaver]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

Is this where we're putting crazy/weird plays? I've got a sorta wild one, but I think it's kinda cool since I've only ever seen it once.

Runner on first, one out. Batter pops up to the infield. The entire infield runs in to surround the pitcher and watch as he catches the ball. Meanwhile, the runner on 1st tags up and runs to 2nd... where there's no one to whom the pitcher can throw the ball. He makes it safely.

http://youtu.be/T54ZOd1moTo

It's like the entire team decided to forget there was only one out, or were so worried that Paxton (I think?) was going to drop the ball, that they forgot all their other responsibilities.

[Mrmagoo]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

Is this where we're putting crazy/weird plays? I've got a sorta wild one, but I think it's kinda cool since I've only ever seen it once.

Runner on first, one out. Batter pops up to the infield. The entire infield runs in to surround the pitcher and watch as he catches the ball. Meanwhile, the runner on 1st tags up and runs to 2nd... where there's no one to whom the pitcher can throw the ball. He makes it safely.

http://youtu.be/T54ZOd1moTo

It's like the entire team decided to forget there was only one out, or were so worried that Paxton (I think?) was going to drop the ball, that they forgot all their other responsibilities.

I see that happen a lot!! Not the actual tag up, but the whole infield gathered around a simple pop up.