Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (with

[torpidbeaver]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

Yeah, I guess you're right - I have seen people gather around pop-ups to sing Kumbaya, but that's the only time I've seen a team screw up campfire singalong time so badly that it cost them a base.

[decga]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

Let me try and paint a picture for you.

Bottom of the 8th.. I'm the Yankees, up 3-2.. Runners on first and second, 2 out. McCann hits a sharp grounder towards second that gobbles up the second basemen and hops past him for an easy RBI single and a 4-2 lead......until this happens.

Anyone who knows me knows I have some issues with this game, but this takes the cake.. You can say what you will about this being a random occurrence or a blip, but weird things happen like this all the time and I wanted to provide video evidence just to see if anyone would chime in on what was actually at play here.. Please let me know because right about now I'm completely disgusted at how blatant this was.

https://vimeo.com/105511043

Wow! I just was able to view the video. I have never and hope I will never be on the receiving end of that kind of play.

[KBLover]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

One I'm starting to see more of for some reason:

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The runners freezing initially makes sense of course...just...not until the CF picks up the ball! Lost a run (at least for now, game is in progress) and nearly had a force out at 2B. Even Matt was shocked a run didn't score :P

And before anyone blames user error - this was with Auto baserunning.

[nomo17k]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

Then wouldn't it make sense to... you know... not use an animation system?

I'm tired of hearing stuff about bla bla our hitting system isnt built to allow us to do that or our baserunning system doesnt allow for this. That's not a valid excuse. There are usually alternatives for different systems, different approaches to recreate something. If an important task is not doable in the current system, then perhaps it's time for a new system.

I know these changes take time... I'm not saying I expect a brand new foundation tomorrow, next year, or even 3 years from now. I understand these guys are pressed for time. But the number of shortcuts taken is starting to get a little high. The number of ways in which the sport has been compromised in favor of convenience, a little too numerous.

Examples? For base stealing, instead of a proper lead/pickoff system, a shortcut was taken so that leads and break speeds are predetermined on every pitch, based on ratings. Instead of setting up realistically variable velocities for pitches, they just slapped this weird and irrational thing on where high pitches have a higher velocity than lower ones, to give the illusion of variance.

I feel like in cases such as these, they changed the sport of baseball to adequately suit the video game, instead of changing the video game to adequately suit the sport of baseball. Shortcuts and "quick fixes" such as these only serve to limit the actual authenticity and dynamic-ness of the game, and this is something I'd like to see get a lot more attention in future years.

All I meant by the word "makes sense" is that *within the current limitations of the game system,* all those seemingly (to some) wonky behaviors do have their reason for happening. I didn't mean that the current system is the only way it makes sense. It's just that these things happen for a reason, but not for the kind of reasons that the OP was initially suggesting.

I do think stock animation system at some point will be too limiting if some parts of the game are ever going to evolve, but it (i.e., a new system) simply hasn't happened yet. But given the amount of complaints that we already see with the current animation system, it's not guaranteed that any other method would be better. Additional complications might actually lead to more wonky things happening, you know what I mean? No matter what system The Show ends up using, there will always be constraints to be concerned with.

[Bobhead]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

All I meant by the word "makes sense" is that *within the current limitations of the game system,* all those seemingly (to some) wonky behaviors do have their reason for happening. I didn't mean that the current system is the only way it makes sense. It's just that these things happen for a reason, but not for the kind of reasons that the OP was initially suggesting.

Yeah man I knew what you meant. I wasn't speaking exclusively to you or calling you out or anything like that. It was more just a general response inspired by your post, if that makes sense?

[Pared]

Re: Someone please explain this to me - I've never seen anything so blatant before (w

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ng-thread.html

You can use this to report bugs, with videos included. Would be more helpful for next year.