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  • torpidbeaver
    Pro
    • Mar 2010
    • 636

    #1

    Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

    Playing offline Franchise, playing the games myself (rarely simming the last few innings of blow-outs). At the All-Star break, my batters have been hit 7 times, and I think at least two of those happened during sim-times. The other teams in the leagues have between 22-38 HBPs.

    I don't think there's anyway to see how many times I've hit the computer, but I believe I can count them on one hand. And at least two of those were thrown after I gave up ridiculous home runs, and wanted to injure someone.

    Is anyone else having this problem? Or better yet, a solution? I'm scared to touch any sliders to try and get more HBPs on both sides of the ball, but I'd love to hear suggestions.
  • Scott
    Your Go-to TV Expert
    • Jul 2002
    • 20031

    #2
    Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

    I've had games where I've had one batter get hit multiple times..
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    • KBLover
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 12172

      #3
      Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

      Originally posted by torpidbeaver
      Playing offline Franchise, playing the games myself (rarely simming the last few innings of blow-outs). At the All-Star break, my batters have been hit 7 times, and I think at least two of those happened during sim-times. The other teams in the leagues have between 22-38 HBPs.

      I don't think there's anyway to see how many times I've hit the computer, but I believe I can count them on one hand. And at least two of those were thrown after I gave up ridiculous home runs, and wanted to injure someone.

      Is anyone else having this problem? Or better yet, a solution? I'm scared to touch any sliders to try and get more HBPs on both sides of the ball, but I'd love to hear suggestions.

      Lower CPU Pitch Consistency. That's the slider that governs things like potential HBP. The same is true for your pitcher (Human Pitch Consistency). You can also do more pitching inside with lower control. Sometimes, you'll plunk guys. Just the nature of working in tight.

      Also, if you see a pitch really bearing in and it might hit you, check your swing (successfully). That tends to stop the batter from trying to avoid the pitch and since you didn't swing, it won't be a swinging strike. Instead, you take your base for a HBP.

      It does expose your player to the pitch, and I'm not sure if that impacts your injury chance, but it might - so be warned if you do that.
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      • Bobhead
        Pro
        • Mar 2011
        • 4926

        #4
        Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

        Yeah I'd like to see more HBPs also, on both sides..... I don't really want to lower consistency sliders (I already have both at 2) because I already get a good amount of wild pitches and stuff, and too many wild pitches is way more annoying than not enough HBPs.

        So I just kinda accept it for what it is

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        • twinsfan34
          Rookie
          • Dec 2013
          • 174

          #5
          Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

          KBLovers is right. I get a HBP probably better than every other game.

          Now if you can figure out a way to get a 100 SB and/or 100 BB season...I'm all ears.
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          • torpidbeaver
            Pro
            • Mar 2010
            • 636

            #6
            Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

            Originally posted by Scott
            I've had games where I've had one batter get hit multiple times..
            Are you playing with default sliders?

            Lower CPU Pitch Consistency. That's the slider that governs things like potential HBP. The same is true for your pitcher (Human Pitch Consistency). You can also do more pitching inside with lower control. Sometimes, you'll plunk guys. Just the nature of working in tight.
            Thanks, I'll give this a try. I'm more than a little nervous about fooling with Human consistency, as I'm already the leader (loser) in walks by a large, large margin, but I'll give it a shot for a game or two.

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            • KBLover
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 12172

              #7
              Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

              Originally posted by Bobhead
              Yeah I'd like to see more HBPs also, on both sides..... I don't really want to lower consistency sliders (I already have both at 2) because I already get a good amount of wild pitches and stuff, and too many wild pitches is way more annoying than not enough HBPs.

              So I just kinda accept it for what it is

              Does the Fielder Errors slider help with WP/PB?

              Was thinking maybe low Fielder Error would lessen those plays, leaving mostly HBP "alive" as a result more often?

              Then again, I don't get a lot of WP/PB this year (last year it was way more of an issue for me) with 0 Consistency. Not sure what that's about since you're seeing a good amount at 2. Who knows?
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              • KBLover
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2009
                • 12172

                #8
                Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

                Originally posted by twinsfan34
                KBLovers is right. I get a HBP probably better than every other game.

                Now if you can figure out a way to get a 100 SB and/or 100 BB season...I'm all ears.
                Lower consistency should help with the BB's too?

                Granted, I've not hit 100 walks (I don't think) but I figured that's me swinging at the crap too much.
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                • Bobhead
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 4926

                  #9
                  Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

                  Originally posted by KBLover
                  Does the Fielder Errors slider help with WP/PB?

                  Was thinking maybe low Fielder Error would lessen those plays, leaving mostly HBP "alive" as a result more often?

                  Then again, I don't get a lot of WP/PB this year (last year it was way more of an issue for me) with 0 Consistency. Not sure what that's about since you're seeing a good amount at 2. Who knows?
                  Fielding Errors slider does affect WPs and PBs, but I also like where my Fielding Error slider is (6), since it's an integral part of maintaining a realistic number of singles, infield hits, bunts, etc...

                  Incidentally, The Show does not track HBPs allowed, and it does not track wild pitches or passed balls at all. I'd have to go check each box score for each individual game, and count them manually, if I really wanted to measure and correct their frequency. This is a big part of the reason I have not put any effort into trying to monitor or correct the frequency of HBPs in my game. It's a lot of work, for something that really does not even effect the game much.


                  It also means I really have no idea if I am getting a realistic rate of wild pitches, which is something you made me think about after my initial post with not wanting to change the consistency slider.
                  Last edited by Bobhead; 09-09-2014, 01:11 PM.

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                  • Knight165
                    *ll St*r
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 24964

                    #10
                    Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

                    Originally posted by twinsfan34
                    KBLovers is right. I get a HBP probably better than every other game.

                    Now if you can figure out a way to get a 100 SB and/or 100 BB season...I'm all ears.
                    100 SB's might be tough(CPU...not human, right?)
                    The most I've seen in sims is 78 I think. I'm fairly certain I've never seen it in the 80's or above in my sims.
                    But 100 BB's....I'm going to have at least one on my team(Duda/Granderson...Duda for sure) and there might be 4 in the N.L.(I haven't checked the A.L.)

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                    • Ghost Of The Year
                      Life's been good so far.
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 6352

                      #11
                      Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

                      Originally posted by twinsfan34
                      KBLovers is right. I get a HBP probably better than every other game.

                      Now if you can figure out a way to get a 100 SB and/or 100 BB season...I'm all ears.
                      No one's had 80+ steals since the late eighties so I'm fine with where the game stands as is on that, for now.
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                      • tessl
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 5683

                        #12
                        Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

                        In manage mode I see a lot of hbp therefore I believe you are incorrect.

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                        • Mrmagoo
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 669

                          #13
                          Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

                          Originally posted by tessl
                          In manage mode I see a lot of hbp therefore I believe you are incorrect.
                          If your response is to the OP, he specifically stated that it's mostly in played out games not simmed.

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                          • Knight165
                            *ll St*r
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 24964

                            #14
                            Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

                            Originally posted by Mrmagoo
                            If your response is to the OP, he specifically stated that it's mostly in played out games not simmed.
                            Manage mode games are not simmed.
                            They are basically two played games...each half CPU....Except you have control over decision on one.
                            It's the gameplay engine in MoM.



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                            • Mrmagoo
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 669

                              #15
                              Re: Complete lack of HBPs in Offline Franchise

                              Oh, so in Mom mode it's the same engine that's used when a user actually plays out a game against the cpu? I didn't know that.
                              Sorry about foot in mouth... And the misinformation.
                              Thanks for the correction Knight!

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