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  • ch46647
    MVP
    • Aug 2006
    • 3514

    #1

    Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

    Hi Everyone, I am about to head into my first off season and have a question about the Rule 5 draft.

    How do we know what players are eligible to be enrolled in the Rule 5 Draft? I realize that any player not on your 40 man roster is eligible, but they have to be over a certain amount of years in the league.

    What is the criteria for a player to be eligible for the Rule 5 draft? And is there any way to quickly go through your players and see who is at risk of being drafted?

    I do not want to lose a solid prospect by having them leave in the Rule 5 draft because I was not aware they were eligible and did not put them on my 40 man roster.
  • ShowTyme15
    LADetermined
    • Jan 2004
    • 11853

    #2
    Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

    Originally posted by ch46647
    Hi Everyone, I am about to head into my first off season and have a question about the Rule 5 draft.

    How do we know what players are eligible to be enrolled in the Rule 5 Draft? I realize that any player not on your 40 man roster is eligible, but they have to be over a certain amount of years in the league.

    What is the criteria for a player to be eligible for the Rule 5 draft? And is there any way to quickly go through your players and see who is at risk of being drafted?

    I do not want to lose a solid prospect by having them leave in the Rule 5 draft because I was not aware they were eligible and did not put them on my 40 man roster.
    Check the player card and scroll over to the page where it shows his options and if he's on the 40 man. It'll say yes or no next to Rule 5 Eligible.

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    • ch46647
      MVP
      • Aug 2006
      • 3514

      #3
      Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

      Thanks! Does he have to be on the 40 man or is it on every players, player card?

      I was under the impression that any player on the 40 man is excluded from the rule 5 draft. I am concerned about my minor league prospects who are not on my 40 man yet..

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      • ShowTyme15
        LADetermined
        • Jan 2004
        • 11853

        #4
        Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

        Originally posted by ch46647
        Thanks! Does he have to be on the 40 man or is it on every players, player card?

        I was under the impression that any player on the 40 man is excluded from the rule 5 draft. I am concerned about my minor league prospects who are not on my 40 man yet..
        Yes 40 man players are excluded. Check your prospects (that are not on the 40 man)player card to find out if they are Rule 5 Eligible.

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        • ch46647
          MVP
          • Aug 2006
          • 3514

          #5
          Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

          Thank you Showtyme! Excited to take on my first off-season.

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          • rjackson
            MVP
            • Apr 2005
            • 1661

            #6
            Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

            To make it easier, these are usually players aged 23 or 24 years old. Go to the manage roster screen, sort by age, and scroll right a bit to see the column that says 40-man "yes or no". Just look at people aged like 22, 23, 24 via triangle and hit L1 twice and you'll see Rule V elig: Y/N.

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            • Knight165
              *ll St*r
              • Feb 2003
              • 24964

              #7
              Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

              Originally posted by rjackson
              To make it easier, these are usually players aged 23 or 24 years old. Go to the manage roster screen, sort by age, and scroll right a bit to see the column that says 40-man "yes or no". Just look at people aged like 22, 23, 24 via triangle and hit L1 twice and you'll see Rule V elig: Y/N.
              Yes...this is a good way....
              I asked to have a new column with Rule V eligible as the header.
              There wasn't enough time to add it in last year.....hopefully they can get it in to make it easier.

              M.K.
              Knight165
              All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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              • Mike Lowe
                All Star
                • Dec 2006
                • 5286

                #8
                Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

                Hey guys,

                Are you seeing absurd protection lists by AI teams? I'm seeing top notch prospects (especially pitching) making it into the Rule 5 Draft (not called Rule V).

                I'm wondering if teams aren't setting their protection lists properly? This is in a test league using 30 team control with the other 29 teams set to Auto for everything.
                Last edited by Mike Lowe; 10-15-2014, 05:46 PM.

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                • ShowTyme15
                  LADetermined
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 11853

                  #9
                  Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

                  Originally posted by Mike Lowe
                  Hey guys,

                  Are you seeing absurd protection lists by AI teams? I'm seeing top notch prospects (especially pitching) making it into the Rule 5 Draft (not called Rule V).

                  I'm wondering if teams aren't setting their protection lists properly? This is in a test league using 30 team control with the other 29 teams set to Auto for everything.
                  There is no way to set the protection list. A lot of the Top prospects don't even get selected in the Rule 5 draft. Also if you're that worried about it, just set draft management to Manuel(CPU Profile). Problem solved.

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                  • KBLover
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 12172

                    #10
                    Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

                    Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                    There is no way to set the protection list. A lot of the Top prospects don't even get selected in the Rule 5 draft. Also if you're that worried about it, just set draft management to Manuel(CPU Profile). Problem solved.
                    While true, it's still something that needs to be improved for the AI's roster management.

                    AI shouldn't leave guys like D.J. Peterson (pretty much MLB-ready in my franchise) off the 40-man roster for some team to snatch up. Some MLB-ready SP as well. I mean, I don't get why they weren't in the majors let alone not even on the 40-man at all.

                    Yes, yes, I get you can workaround, etc. Still think it's something that needs improvement.
                    "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                    • ShowTyme15
                      LADetermined
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11853

                      #11
                      Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

                      Originally posted by KBLover
                      While true, it's still something that needs to be improved for the AI's roster management.

                      AI shouldn't leave guys like D.J. Peterson (pretty much MLB-ready in my franchise) off the 40-man roster for some team to snatch up. Some MLB-ready SP as well. I mean, I don't get why they weren't in the majors let alone not even on the 40-man at all.

                      Yes, yes, I get you can workaround, etc. Still think it's something that needs improvement.
                      Honestly, it really doesn't matter. Most of them pass through unclaimed and returned if claimed. I've done numerous Sims on this with several rosters. D.J. Peterson isn't even on Seattle's 40 man in real life.

                      Another workaround for this is in the front end release a guy (you know will be rule 5) into FA 3 list then pick him back up he'll have a multi-year deal and won't be rule 5 eligible when you start your franchise.

                      While I understand your stance on the AI it isn't always flawed in all situations. There are also workarounds which you can or can not chose to use. Judging by most of your statements on here I'd say you don't want to use the workarounds.

                      We all know the AI needs some work, but right now it is what is.
                      Last edited by ShowTyme15; 10-15-2014, 08:55 PM.

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                      • Mrmagoo
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 669

                        #12
                        Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

                        There's plenty other AI problems that need to be looked at in regards to budgets, rosters, playing rosters and minor leagues also.
                        Everyone's different granted, I for one tho am about done with work around, there's way to many to keep track of Imo. Same reason I'm not all that excited or confident in the franchise carry overs.
                        They need to do some serious clean up to the AI for me to consider a long term franchise.
                        Guess I'm just burnt out with work arounds as a whole. Yes I'm sure they'll always be some work arounds, but the list is growing rather than shrinking.

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                        • KBLover
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 12172

                          #13
                          Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

                          Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                          Honestly, it really doesn't matter. Most of them pass through unclaimed and returned if claimed. I've done numerous Sims on this with several rosters. D.J. Peterson isn't even on Seattle's 40 man in real life.

                          Another workaround for this is in the front end release a guy (you know will be rule 5) into FA 3 list then pick him back up he'll have a multi-year deal and won't be rule 5 eligible when you start your franchise.

                          While I understand your stance on the AI it isn't always flawed in all situations. There are also workarounds which you can or can not chose to use. Judging by most of your statements on here I'd say you don't want to use the workarounds.

                          We all know the AI needs some work, but right now it is what is.

                          You're right, I don't want to use workarounds or house rules. Burned out on that from dealing with Madden over the years. I just want to play baseball and run my team against a competent (not "perfect") AI opponent on and off the field.

                          Why leave a hitter that's got 65 Contact and 70 Power with 70 defense unprotected and is the best player at the position both in OVR and in hitting+defense? D.J. Peterson has not been returned (because he's the best player for them at 3B just like he was for Seattle) - he's doing just fine for himself - which he should have been doing for Seattle.

                          Peterson in real life wouldn't be rated that highly. .808 OPS in AA doesn't need 65/70 current hitting ratings. Those kind of hitting ratings could do .800 OPS in the majors, let alone AA, which is why I don't understand why he wasn't on the 40-man and playing at the majors with no one blocking him or any other log jam sort of situation.

                          Can't use that workaround if I wanted to since I'm nearing the 2nd half of Year 3 in my Marlins franchise.
                          "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                          • ShowTyme15
                            LADetermined
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11853

                            #14
                            Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

                            Originally posted by KBLover
                            You're right, I don't want to use workarounds or house rules. Burned out on that from dealing with Madden over the years. I just want to play baseball and run my team against a competent (not "perfect") AI opponent on and off the field.

                            Why leave a hitter that's got 65 Contact and 70 Power with 70 defense unprotected and is the best player at the position both in OVR and in hitting+defense? D.J. Peterson has not been returned (because he's the best player for them at 3B just like he was for Seattle) - he's doing just fine for himself - which he should have been doing for Seattle.

                            Peterson in real life wouldn't be rated that highly. .808 OPS in AA doesn't need 65/70 current hitting ratings. Those kind of hitting ratings could do .800 OPS in the majors, let alone AA, which is why I don't understand why he wasn't on the 40-man and playing at the majors with no one blocking him or any other log jam sort of situation.

                            Can't use that workaround if I wanted to since I'm nearing the 2nd half of Year 3 in my Marlins franchise.
                            To each his own. Everyone has a preference. We won't EVER have perfect AI it'll always be an issue in ALL sports games. I get it you don't use 30 team control and don't use workarounds, but you can't say no one told you how to prevent certain things and you choose not to go that route. Like I said AI will always be an issue regardless. Good luck with the rest of your Marlins franchise.

                            With D.J. Peterson was Kyle Seager still in Seattle at the time?

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                            • Mrmagoo
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 669

                              #15
                              Re: Players Headed to Rule 5 Draft?

                              I don't think anyone was asking for perfect AI. I don't get why everytime someone brings up examples where the AI needs improvement it sooner or later gets turned into "we'll never get perfect AI"
                              hell just last night I was playing the padres and headley trys to steal third on the pitch right after he stole 2nd...with 2 outs nonetheless and they were down by one. This was in the 8th inning. Smh..

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