Durability ratings

[Knight165]

Re: Durability ratings

The video of Stanton's injury, a fastball from Fiers.

Watching the video...the ball went straight for him from the start and Stanton was actually swinging and turned INTO the pitch.



M.K.
Knight165

[Cavicchi]

Re: Durability ratings

Watching the video...the ball went straight for him from the start and Stanton was actually swinging and turned INTO the pitch.



M.K.
Knight165

Maybe he was turning away from the pitch, turning in as someone above had suggested."Stanton failed to properly shield himself from the pitch. Every baseball player knows to turn their body in."

Looking at the video, I don't think he had much time to react. Anyway, he played every game of the season up to that point, all 145 games.

I'm not sure any of this matters. I still don't see that injury having anything to do with his durability.

[Knight165]

Re: Durability ratings

Maybe he was turning away from the pitch, turning in as someone above had suggested."Stanton failed to properly shield himself from the pitch. Every baseball player knows to turn their body in."

Looking at the video, I don't think he had much time to react. Anyway, he played every game of the season up to that point, all 145 games.

I'm not sure any of this matters. I still don't see that injury having anything to do with his durability.

Turning your body in(into itself) and into the pitch are polar opposites.
He looked like he was actually going to try and swing....on a pitch that was right from the get go heading straight for his face. That's not a good job of protecting no matter how you try and spin it.
Does the fact that he didn't play 39 and 46 games in the previous two seasons matter?....and has never played 162?

The fact also remains that he did get hurt and with the games current limitation on having only durability to factor in on games played....what do you suggest as the solution?

M.K.
Knight165

[Bobhead]

Re: Durability ratings

Turning your body in(into itself) and into the pitch are polar opposites.
He looked like he was actually going to try and swing....on a pitch that was right from the get go heading straight for his face. That's not a good job of protecting no matter how you try and spin it.
Does the fact that he didn't play 39 and 46 games in the previous two seasons matter?....and has never played 162?

The fact also remains that he did get hurt and with the games current limitation on having only durability to factor in on games played....what do you suggest as the solution?

M.K.
Knight165

Why does anything need to be done at all?

There's no evidence to suggest that his injury marks any sort of trend or prolonged susceptibility to injuries.

Adjusting his durability in response to this injury is no different from changing a player's power rating because he hit 3 HRs in one game.

Sometimes, weird things happen. That's baseball.

[ptbnl]

Re: Durability ratings

The problem is balancing injury prone vs. durability.

A guy who plays every game when healthy, but gets hurt a lot (like Tulo) compared to a guy who never gets hurt but needs days off periodically (like say an older player who has avoided major/repeated injuries).

They could have the same or similar durability ratings. What happens is now they both have the same chance to get injured, plus they have to take more time off during the season.

Which doesn't make any sense.

[Ghost Of The Year]

Re: Durability ratings

OK, it's official, the man is injury prone

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13158627/miami-marlins-outfielder-giancarlo-stanton-4-6-weeks-wrist-fracture

[KBLover]

Re: Durability ratings

The fact also remains that he did get hurt and with the games current limitation on having only durability to factor in on games played....what do you suggest as the solution?

Stamina rating for players. Stamina impacts energy level (needing time off). Durability impacts getting hurt based on game events. Ideally, a more nuanced rating like OOTP where various body parts are more or less injury prone - or have a proneness by event. Some guys might not know how to protect themselves on HBP so they get hurt more on those events.

Suspensions really shouldn't count. Those aren't injuries (and as such do not fall under the umbrella of Durability rating in this game).

Not to mention playing 145 games is a good bit of games. Does high Durability actually require Ripken-like performance in this regard?

[Knight165]

Re: Durability ratings

Stamina rating for players. Stamina impacts energy level (needing time off). Durability impacts getting hurt based on game events. Ideally, a more nuanced rating like OOTP where various body parts are more or less injury prone - or have a proneness by event. Some guys might not know how to protect themselves on HBP so they get hurt more on those events.

Suspensions really shouldn't count. Those aren't injuries (and as such do not fall under the umbrella of Durability rating in this game).

Not to mention playing 145 games is a good bit of games. Does high Durability actually require Ripken-like performance in this regard?

I wasn't asking for what NEW could be done.
(we've already discussed that)
I was referring to the OP and his lament that with Stanton getting injured (last year)...his durability rating was going into the 80s.....and he didn't like it.
I asked him what he would do with giving out the rating?
Give him a 99 anyway?(which would have been wrong obviously)
Looks like Stanton isn't as durable as he thought.
(and I know these aren't his "fault" per se....but do we just ignore that he gets injured?....regardless of how?

M.K.
Knight165

[HozAndMoose]

Re: Durability ratings

I wasn't asking for what NEW could be done.
(we've already discussed that)
I was referring to the OP and his lament that with Stanton getting injured (last year)...his durability rating was going into the 80s.....and he didn't like it.
I asked him what he would do with giving out the rating?
Give him a 99 anyway?(which would have been wrong obviously)
Looks like Stanton isn't as durable as he thought.
(and I know these aren't his "fault" per se....but do we just ignore that he gets injured?....regardless of how?

M.K.
Knight165

Actually this one kind of is his fault. It happened on a swing. He never got hit or anything.

[Ghost Of The Year]

Re: Durability ratings

Like clockwork, Stanton done again.
It's time for the Marlins to trade him to the AL so he can just DH, get as much as they can for him. Maybe he's Grant Hill's long lost brother.