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  • brewersfan84
    Rookie
    • Oct 2008
    • 425

    #616
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

    Really looking forward to the new hitting system & equipment upgrades. This franchise continues to wow me year after year. INCREDIBLE!

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    • tabarnes19_SDS
      Game Designer
      • Feb 2003
      • 3084

      #617
      Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

      Originally posted by Bobhead
      You are misunderstanding me.

      If you have 30 team control, you're... controlling 30 teams no?

      I'm talking about only listing the teams you are "really" controlling.

      If you have a 30-team control Mets franchise, you probably have the Mets team assigned to yourself, and the other 29 teams assigned to the CPU. I'd like the save file in that case to only list "New York Mets", instead of alphabetically listing all 30 teams.
      How would the cpu differentiate the human controlled teams? You could have multiple profiles.

      I know exactly what Knight is referring to, I have a slew of 30 team saves. The rename file would be ideal(although it won't make it in this year)

      I usually have to wait for the teams to scroll through on the save file to get to what year and date the franchise is in. Maybe the file could start with the date of the franchise save so Aug. 3rd, 2018...followed by the teams instead of the other way around that it is now.

      ALso a tag of the date the file was last saved. So...

      File save april 3rd, 2015, Franchise Aug. 3rd, 2018 Atl, Bal......

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      • Bobhead
        Pro
        • Mar 2011
        • 4926

        #618
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

        Originally posted by tabarnes19
        How would the cpu differentiate the human controlled teams? You could have multiple profiles.
        Maybe just list the profiles?

        So profile1: New York Mets
        profile 2: LA Angels, Houston Astros, Oakland Athletics...

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        • Heroesandvillains
          MVP
          • May 2009
          • 5974

          #619
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

          Originally posted by Knight165
          H&V and Bobhead...

          Unless I'm misunderstanding you.....this info is already in the save file info

          -teams controlled(It only shows the team(s) you control when starting a franchise...
          -Save date(actual date)
          -time saved
          -date in franchise(including year)

          I'm having a lot of trouble trying to find something to really distinguish them apart.

          Here is where I would have the most problems in this area....
          Running two franchises w/30 team control(I use it exclusively)...and different teams(one N.L. and one A.L) for example......I constantly have to load the game to see which one it is...
          Running two franchises now.....one being my carry over from '14 and a new one that I'll start in '15(which could be solved by adding the STARTING year to the save name)
          Running franchise with different rosters(historical for example....there are so many now...that having to load and check to see if its the All-Time roster...the 1987 set...etc is such a pain...starting Year would not help in this case)

          M.K.
          Knight165
          Originally posted by Bobhead
          You are misunderstanding me.

          If you have 30 team control, you're... controlling 30 teams no?

          I'm talking about only listing the teams you are "really" controlling.

          If you have a 30-team control Mets franchise, you probably have the Mets team assigned to yourself, and the other 29 teams assigned to the CPU. I'd like the save file in that case to only list "New York Mets", instead of alphabetically listing all 30 teams.
          Originally posted by tabarnes19
          How would the cpu differentiate the human controlled teams? You could have multiple profiles.

          I know exactly what Knight is referring to, I have a slew of 30 team saves. The rename file would be ideal(although it won't make it in this year)

          I usually have to wait for the teams to scroll through on the save file to get to what year and date the franchise is in. Maybe the file could start with the date of the franchise save so Aug. 3rd, 2018...followed by the teams instead of the other way around that it is now.

          ALso a tag of the date the file was last saved. So...

          File save april 3rd, 2015, Franchise Aug. 3rd, 2018 Atl, Bal......
          Right. We're all on the same page here.

          I'm essentially asking for the teams controlled by the Profile called "CPU" to be ignored by in the save file name. Otherwise it would always list all of the teams and wouldn't have any distinctive elements to it to differentiate it from any other save file.

          This is also why I'd like the Franchise in-season date to be prominent in the name as well.

          We need something to help those of us with multiple 30 team controlled Franchises distinguish the files from eachother. Currently it lists every team unless I'm mistaken.

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          • Heroesandvillains
            MVP
            • May 2009
            • 5974

            #620
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

            Originally posted by Bobhead
            Maybe just list the profiles?

            So profile1: New York Mets
            profile 2: LA Angels, Houston Astros, Oakland Athletics...
            That could work too.

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            • Madden's Jowels
              MVP
              • Mar 2009
              • 1249

              #621
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

              Originally posted by Bobhead
              And when SCEA makes an NBA or WWE game I'm sure this will be very relevant information...

              Until then, do remember that MLB is not owned or operated by Vince McMahon or Adam Silver.

              Expecting something to be in The SHow on the basis of a WWE game is akin to expecting something to be legal here in the U.S. because it is legal in Poland.

              I'm sorry but I've gotta call you out on this awful logic.

              Ramone said they don't have tattoos in the game because tattoo artists legally own the artwork. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, it would be true for the NBA, the WWE, the NFL, or any other type of digital medium where that artist's intellectual property would be represented. In other words it has nothing to do with Adam Silver, Vince McMahon, or Bud Selig/Rob Manfred. It's a legal issue, not a commissioner mandate.

              It means that either a) Ramone's claim that they can't legally put the tattoos into the game because it's intellectual property of the tattoo artist is not the entire story or b) it means 2K is paying the artists to use the tattoos.

              And if 2K is paying to use the tattoos, it's reasonable and fair for a consumer of SCEA's product to question if that would be possible at all for MLB The Show down the road.

              Now we all know that SCEA is a smaller studio and they don't get anywhere near the budget that Madden or 2K does, but all I'm saying is your post was extremely rude and snarky considering the content of your post was entirely wrong.

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              • pistolpete
                MVP
                • Jun 2004
                • 1816

                #622
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet

                This looks great. I've already decided I am going to come back to this game. I can't wait!!!

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                • Bobhead
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 4926

                  #623
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                  Originally posted by Madden's Jowels
                  I'm sorry but I've gotta call you out on this awful logic.

                  Ramone said they don't have tattoos in the game because tattoo artists legally own the artwork. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, it would be true for the NBA, the WWE, the NFL, or any other type of digital medium where that artist's intellectual property would be represented. In other words it has nothing to do with Adam Silver, Vince McMahon, or Bud Selig/Rob Manfred. It's a legal issue, not a commissioner mandate.

                  It means that either a) Ramone's claim that they can't legally put the tattoos into the game because it's intellectual property of the tattoo artist is not the entire story or b) it means 2K is paying the artists to use the tattoos.

                  And if 2K is paying to use the tattoos, it's reasonable and fair for a consumer of SCEA's product to question if that would be possible at all for MLB The Show down the road.

                  Now we all know that SCEA is a smaller studio and they don't get anywhere near the budget that Madden or 2K does, but all I'm saying is your post was extremely rude and snarky considering the content of your post was entirely wrong.
                  It has everything to do with the commissioners. NFL and NBA players unions have signed a bunch of waivers in their labor-agreements that furnish all intellectual and ownership rights to the respective leagues. These waivers are why the NFL can tell their players what kind of headphones they are allowed to wear, even when they are nowhere near a football stadium, for example. The WWE literally own the wrestlers, (they've sued wrestlers for using their own names) and as such, any deal made with the almost certainly league nets you the rights to every aspect of the athlete, from tattoos, to personality.

                  Due to the strength of the MLB player's union, the MLB players have not been placed under this type of arrangement. It's why the Barry Bonds (not in video games) situation existed, for example. MLBPA has fought hard to maintain a capitalistic and individualistic approach to the league, and as such, every aspect of the MLB's legal situation is very different from the situations of the NBA and WWE.

                  Stop comparing them.
                  And next time you go and call someone out for their "awful logic," you should try Google first.



                  Read the second sentence.

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                  • Russell_SCEA
                    SCEA Community Manager
                    • May 2005
                    • 4161

                    #624
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                    Originally posted by countryboy
                    Now I have a question in regard to this, which may help clear up confusion in the thread.

                    Is it that you cannot put the authentic tattoo on the player because that art belongs to the artist, or are you not allowed to tattoo any players anymore due to Kapernick having his authentic tattoo put into Madden?
                    Q&A is over sorry and I've said everything we will say on that subject.

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                    • Madden's Jowels
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1249

                      #625
                      Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                      Originally posted by Bobhead
                      It has everything to do with the commissioners. NFL and NBA players unions have signed a bunch of waivers in their labor-agreements that furnish all intellectual and ownership rights to the respective leagues. These waivers are why the NFL can tell their players what kind of headphones they are allowed to wear, even when they are nowhere near a football stadium, for example. The WWE literally own the wrestlers, (they've sued wrestlers for using their own names) and as such, any deal made with the almost certainly league nets you the rights to every aspect of the athlete, from tattoos, to personality.

                      Due to the strength of the MLB player's union, the MLB players have not been placed under this type of arrangement. It's why the Barry Bonds (not in video games) situation existed, for example. MLBPA has fought hard to maintain a capitalistic and individualistic approach to the league, and as such, every aspect of the MLB's legal situation is very different from the situations of the NBA and WWE.

                      Stop comparing them.
                      And next time you go and call someone out for their "awful logic," you should try Google first.



                      Read the second sentence.

                      If the IP belongs to the tattoo artist, and not the player, then it wouldn't matter what likeness rights of the players that the MLBPA owns. The player doesn't get to negotiate on behalf of the tattoo artist.

                      That's why I said that there's a chance that Ramone's statement was not the entire story, i.e. maybe the tattoo artists don't own the IP completely. I was just going off Ramone's statement. But if his statement is true, I don't see how the MLBPA could negotiate ownership of that IP through it's players without the artists themselves being paid for it. Which was another point I brought up.


                      I'm not a lawyer and I don't claim to fully understand the topic, but you were being a dick about a legitimate, fair question raised and that's still true.
                      Last edited by Madden's Jowels; 01-30-2015, 10:24 PM.

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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52691

                        #626
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                        Originally posted by Bobhead
                        It has everything to do with the commissioners. NFL and NBA players unions have signed a bunch of waivers in their labor-agreements that furnish all intellectual and ownership rights to the respective leagues. These waivers are why the NFL can tell their players what kind of headphones they are allowed to wear, even when they are nowhere near a football stadium, for example. The WWE literally own the wrestlers, (they've sued wrestlers for using their own names) and as such, any deal made with the almost certainly league nets you the rights to every aspect of the athlete, from tattoos, to personality.

                        Due to the strength of the MLB player's union, the MLB players have not been placed under this type of arrangement. It's why the Barry Bonds (not in video games) situation existed, for example. MLBPA has fought hard to maintain a capitalistic and individualistic approach to the league, and as such, every aspect of the MLB's legal situation is very different from the situations of the NBA and WWE.

                        Stop comparing them.
                        And next time you go and call someone out for their "awful logic," you should try Google first.



                        Read the second sentence.
                        Thank you for posting the website.

                        Should help clear up any confusion.
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                        • kehlis
                          Moderator
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27738

                          #627
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                          Originally posted by Bobhead
                          These waivers are why the NFL can tell their players what kind of headphones they are allowed to wear, even when they are nowhere near a football stadium.
                          This actually isn't true.

                          They can where whatever they want away from the football stadium. They can even wear them inside of a football stadium. They just can't be seen with them on camera.

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                          • Bobhead
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 4926

                            #628
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                            Originally posted by Madden's Jowels
                            I'm not a lawyer and I don't claim to fully understand the topic, but you were being a dick about a legitimate, fair question raised and that's still true.
                            That's just how I talk man. I don't even proofread my posts, I just type whatever comes to me, exactly how it comes. I definitely didn't go out of my way to be a dick, so if you really felt I was being condescending then I apologize for that.

                            I am a New Yorker at heart, after all...

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                            • Turbojugend
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 2242

                              #629
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                              Originally posted by Bobhead
                              Stop comparing them.
                              But...

                              Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                              See Madden the art belongs to the tattoo artist.
                              ...Ramone was the first to make a comparison to another game/dev/league/whatever. I'm just saying.

                              And yeah, you were a bit condescending but it's all good. Let's just look forward to this great game.
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                              • Bobhead
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 4926

                                #630
                                Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

                                Originally posted by kehlis
                                This actually isn't true.

                                They can where whatever they want away from the football stadium. They can even wear them inside of a football stadium. They just can't be seen with them on camera.
                                Yeah you're right, but the players have no real way of "avoiding" the cameras, so realistically they don't have much choice.

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