MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

[aguero90]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

I've played the show since the first one in 06, and go back to mlb 98, I've never been as excited for a baseball game like this!

[kehlis]

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First time ever for maddens. The neck tattoos in the shoe are authentic.
And as Russell LOVES to say comparing madden to the show is apples to battleships. And again you own what you purchase. Doesn't matter if an artist drew it or not it's yours to do with as you please, period.

Conveniently ignoring the link I shared with you I take it?

[CJ10]

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Conveniently ignoring the link I shared with you I take it?

The link only states that Williams was sued and the NFLPA advised players to get permission. The article shows no evidence whatsoever that this is REQUIRED by any law and it states that the case was dropped. So there is still no evidence that tattoos don't belong to the person who's body they are on. Just because a tattoo person THINKS they own it doesn't make it true. And I am confident we will see the same neck tattoos in 15 as we have in all other iterations of the show due to there being no such law. The article also states that Madden fans had to assume why tats were no longer in the game. Your customer should NEVER have to assume anything, they should be given the facts. If Sony wants to go the same route as EA and require the players to obtain consent that's their prerogative, but yet again there is no law requiring permission to be obtained before use.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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...The article also states that Madden fans had to assume why tats were no longer in the game. Your customer should NEVER have to assume anything, they should be given the facts.

That's what I told KFC when I asked for their recipe! Alas, no dice.

[CJ10]

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That's what I told KFC when I asked for their recipe! Alas, no dice.

It cracks me up that your two statements are completely irrelevant to anything I have said. If you're going to argue at least make it logical.

[kehlis]

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The link only states that Williams was sued and the NFLPA advised players to get permission. The article shows no evidence whatsoever that this is REQUIRED by any law and it states that the case was dropped. So there is still no evidence that tattoos don't belong to the person who's body they are on. Just because a tattoo person THINKS they own it doesn't make it true. And I am confident we will see the same neck tattoos in 15 as we have in all other iterations of the show due to there being no such law. The article also states that Madden fans had to assume why tats were no longer in the game. Your customer should NEVER have to assume anything, they should be given the facts. If Sony wants to go the same route as EA and require the players to obtain consent that's their prerogative, but yet again there is no law requiring permission to be obtained before use.

If you would have actually looked at some of the links within that link would have seen this:

According to Escobedo's lawyer, tattoo artists have full rights to their work, unless a written contract specifies otherwise.

A similar case suggests that Escobedo's claims do carry merit and a chance for success. The Hangover 2 featured Mike Tyson's facial tattoo on one of the movie's main characters, sparking a lawsuit from the tattoo artist responsible. Although the case was settled for an undisclosed amount, A California District Court judge suggested that a win was likely.

This isn't even just about video games but keep fighting your fight if you want....

[countryboy]

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First time ever for maddens. The neck tattoos in the shoe are authentic.
And as Russell LOVES to say comparing madden to the show is apples to battleships. And again you own what you purchase. Doesn't matter if an artist drew it or not it's yours to do with as you please, period.

And you are incorrect.

If I buy the painting of the Mona Lisa, I don't own the rights to the painting of the Mona Lisa, only the portrait to hang on my wall and showcase to everyone.

No need to further conversation.

[HypoLuxa13]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

[countryboy]

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My cat's breath smells like cat food.

Ok

[Knight165]

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I've got a fun/legitimate question for Knight, Showtyme and other vets. How hyped are you after this years fact sheet compared to the many years you've played The Show? For me I'm very very excited. I always love the Show but last two years I wasn't AS excited but this year I'm like let's go!! Ha. Just curious about the vets anticipation compared to previous years just for the fun sake of discussion!

Ha....I'll play!

Well....I'm(as always and as some are thinking...."OF COURSE") hyped big time.
Especially this year since everything is going to be new(well..the changes of course) to me on release day as I've seen nothing of the game so far.
I haven't been posting much because I've just been way to busy at work....(mucho Oscar Tango) ...and it also is causing me to miss Community Day(week) for the first time in 7(8?) years.
Rest assured.....I can't wait to see the changes in store and especially check out the radio show. Even if it's minimal right now....it's a big step in the right direction IMO. Just the fact that they are putting this in instead of a TWIB type "show"....enforces that anything graphical is too much on resources to do how they would want to do it....

M.K.
Knight165

[countryboy]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

I've got a fun/legitimate question for Knight, Showtyme and other vets. How hyped are you after this years fact sheet compared to the many years you've played The Show? For me I'm very very excited. I always love the Show but last two years I wasn't AS excited but this year I'm like let's go!! Ha. Just curious about the vets anticipation compared to previous years just for the fun sake of discussion!

Myself, I'm very excited. Besides baseball being my favorite sport by far, there are a LOT of things on the fact sheet that I've been waiting to be implemented into the game, most notably being the radio show for franchise mode.

I am eager to hear more about the changes to the gameplay as well as what changes have been made to franchise mode.

For me, March 31st, can't get here soon enough!

[potsey7]

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How did i know knight would be excited haha! But I agree with both of you guys. Although we all want more stats and things (and I know they'll happen in future), the biggest thing I want is more immersion in my franchise. I think the radio show will do that. Helps us buy into what is going on in our own leagues. I love watching MLB Tonight each night, I hope this will do the same for me. Anyway...veterans I'm still interested in how hyped you are compared to the past.

[SoxFan01605]

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The link only states that Williams was sued and the NFLPA advised players to get permission. The article shows no evidence whatsoever that this is REQUIRED by any law and it states that the case was dropped. So there is still no evidence that tattoos don't belong to the person who's body they are on. Just because a tattoo person THINKS they own it doesn't make it true. And I am confident we will see the same neck tattoos in 15 as we have in all other iterations of the show due to there being no such law. The article also states that Madden fans had to assume why tats were no longer in the game. Your customer should NEVER have to assume anything, they should be given the facts. If Sony wants to go the same route as EA and require the players to obtain consent that's their prerogative, but yet again there is no law requiring permission to be obtained before use.

Whether something is specifically required by law or not is moot in terms of navigating the issue. It's also not explicitly stated that tattoos belong to the person they are on (as you or someone else also asserted). The absence of a specific prohibiting law doesn't mean it's safe to move forward. The only cases brought up publicly have been settled out of court and they weren't the same to boot. So, there is no formal law regarding this specific matter. There are, however, copyright laws pertaining to artistic expression and ownership which do protect the tattoo art/artist which make the matter murky.

As for the difference regarding neck tattoos, perhaps the difference is because they get included in player scans (meaning, just a copy of the player himself), whereas any other tattoos would be added by the art team, thus recreating the art separately themselves (which gets closer to the issue of where the copyright rests). I'm not saying that's definitively the case, but it would make sense. (It would be similar, I think, to the Mike Tyson/Hangover tattoo thing that was settled).

In any case, Ramone pointed to Madden as an example, but I don't think he made direct claims on legality, only on reasoning. A lot of people keep discussing this as though it's black and white, but it's a fairly complex issue, from everything I've read. Regardless of explicit legality or not, it seems like it's the ambiguity that is likely the issue for the NFLPA, EA, and, this game.

[Knight165]

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Now....not to dredge it back up....but...

EVERYTHING now is copyrighted and has some sort of rights attached to them.
I just read an article on the upcoming Tom Clancy game...The Division and the lead artist was stating that while they try to keep the version of New York City in the game 1:1....almost all the BUILDINGS have copyright attached...and they had to change them a certain % to be on the safe side...GTA had to do this as well(taking a different path...)

...and why in the world would any company want to open themselves up to possible legal troubles if it's easily avoided? It's way too much trouble to start with and I'm sure the legal dept. at SCEA has a lot to say in what they will do in regards to things like this.
Neck tats?....As with the "snot rocket" that used to be in the game....they did it....and while nothing was said for a while...once they were told to remove it....they did.
Perhaps when they added those in(and yes...at that time it was because the heads were all separate...and the 3 body types were universal)....it wasn't an issue. It seems to be now.
I think it's just going to have to be accepted for the time being.

M.K.
Knight165

[ShowTyme15]

Re: MLB 15 The Show Fact Sheet - Gameplay Reveal Scheduled For February 5th on Twitch

I've got a fun/legitimate question for Knight, Showtyme and other vets. How hyped are you after this years fact sheet compared to the many years you've played The Show? For me I'm very very excited. I always love the Show but last two years I wasn't AS excited but this year I'm like let's go!! Ha. Just curious about the vets anticipation compared to previous years just for the fun sake of discussion!

Personlly I am excited and looking forward to 15. The Show is really the only sports game I play and it has the most replay value in my opinion. I definitely agree with the things Knight touched on. SCEA has the series going in the right direction. I am curious about the radio show like everyone else. I am an equipment guy so I am interested to see the new accessories I'll have to work with this year. GM contracts is interesting as well. Overall I'm excited and looking forward to the next 2 months of info and how everything all comes together.