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  • bigwill33
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 2281

    #1

    How feasible would a uniform creator be?

    My vision for this would be something along these lines and I wanted to gauge how feasible/possible it might be to include it in the game one day in the future.

    I think having an online uniform editor/creator would help this game out tenfold. My idea would be to have a number of dedicated slots within each team's uniform options for these user created uniforms to be uploaded to and selectable within the game.

    So, say if each team has about 3 slots to fulfill they could still have the home, away, alternates, and maybe a throwback or two shipped with the game on the disc.

    The other 3 slots would be reserved for updates made by users within the community that could uploaded to a server online for download by other users. SCEA could also have verified updates to existing jerseys or new uniforms that they have access to the rights for so that they can update jerseys during the season that are real as teams make changes or use new alternates.

    But the glory in this idea really is set in the notion that user created uniforms would not be bound to the style guide or copyright laws because they are not being sold and are not related to SCEA or the MLB technically.

    The possibilities would be nearly infinite in what we could do. Throwbacks, Negro Leagues, Flag/Holiday themed uniforms, Camo, New Alternates announced for the future, commemorative patches, Turn ahead the clock monstrosities, or just fake uniform concepts that people would want to create and play with!

    There would need to be some sort of ratings system and filter to keep things from being offensive or profane, probably. But being allowed to create uniforms and share them on a web-based template would be ideal, in my mind.

    We could finally solve the button vs pullover issues even. And this would allow those that are great with editing and graphic design to really make use of those skills.

    Similar applications were included with the old NCAA football series. And modding for PC sports game is considered incredibly popular still.

    Making the program be restrictive in certain files and formats in which you can upload would prevent issues with compatibility so that there would be no crashing or frame rate issues during the game.

    I would go as far as to implement a system so that users can select what uniforms they want in an online matchup in that they would only see the uniforms that they have chose. Each user wouldn't have the same uniforms downloaded so if they are to be selectable online it would be best for connections to not have to sync up with uniforms that are not on the disc. You could either disable the feature for online use or just make it so that each user selects the uniform matchup that they want to see on their own screen. Again, something that was implemented back in the very old NCAA football games.

    Let me know what you guys think and if this might be something that could be included someday. Thanks.
    Last edited by bigwill33; 02-24-2015, 12:50 AM.
  • MetsFan16
    MVP
    • Nov 2011
    • 1416

    #2
    Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

    I always questioned why even after launch, uniforms are incorrect. It isn't a huge thing to me personally, I simply play with the correct uniforms in the game. But when NBA 2K is able to add Christmas, Black History Month, Throwback, Sleeved throughout the season, I don't understand why MLB The Show can't add jerseys too.
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    • Perfect Zero
      1B, OF
      • Jun 2005
      • 4012

      #3
      Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

      I would say that it depends on a number of things, the top two being a) if SCEA feels that it is worth it to do it, and b) if MLB will allow it. Baseball has been stingy with their image and giving three blank slots would open a lot to interpretation. I do think that the technology is there, it's just a matter of who wants what.
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      • HozAndMoose
        MVP
        • Mar 2013
        • 3614

        #4
        Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

        Originally posted by MetsFan16
        I always questioned why even after launch, uniforms are incorrect. It isn't a huge thing to me personally, I simply play with the correct uniforms in the game. But when NBA 2K is able to add Christmas, Black History Month, Throwback, Sleeved throughout the season, I don't understand why MLB The Show can't add jerseys too.
        I believe they have to follow the Style Guide. If a uniform isnt in it they cant add it.

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        • bukktown
          MVP
          • Jan 2007
          • 3257

          #5
          Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

          They have an in-game tool for this. It's in diamond dynasty. It might not be as robust as what you are describing but the foundation is there.

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          • steagles
            Rookie
            • Jan 2015
            • 152

            #6
            Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

            Definitely already there in DD. It shouldn't be that hard to export a jersey. I personally would LOVE to see this feature implemented.
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            • bigwill33
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 2281

              #7
              Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

              I've only seen glimpses of the uniform creator for Diamond Dynasty mode. How in-depth is it? Can you create realistic uniforms with it in detail or is it more generic? Like, can you import your own images to use and is web based or console based?

              I am not a fan of the ultimate team modes in sports games so I typically avoid them like the plague.

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              • MauerMorneau09
                Pro
                • Mar 2011
                • 675

                #8
                Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

                I would LOVE a uniform creator. Never again would we have an issue on what uni's make it in or not, plus we can create endless throwbacks/specialty jerseys. It would also make historic seasons more fun to replay, assuming you also added in a stadium creator. One can hope that this will be implemented eventually, but it's up to SCEA to decide whether or not people outside the OS Community feel a jersey creator is an important feature to include in the game. I definitely believe it would spice up Franchise a little, especially if a team is long overdue for a jersey overhaul.

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                • cardinalbird5
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 2814

                  #9
                  Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

                  Yeah it is already there for DD and you can make some pretty nice logo's and unis. It isn't as complex and in depth as it could be, but the foundation is already there. It is just a matter of allowing them to export your DD team to Franchise.
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                  • Unlucky 13
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1707

                    #10
                    Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

                    I'd love to see something like this in The Show. I'd love it even more in Madden. I want to take the colors and logos of one team, and mix them with the styles and themes of others. However, as was basically said, the leagues' prohibit the game makers from doing it, for whatever reason. Why I cannot alter a uniform to play a game by myself in my house is beyond me, but they don't want to allow it.
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                    • Knight165
                      *ll St*r
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 24964

                      #11
                      Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

                      This would be a great addition.
                      We were VERY close a few years ago. It was on the table...but for some reason was moved to a back burner.
                      Feasible?......IMO...definitely.

                      M.K.
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                      • bigwill33
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2281

                        #12
                        Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

                        Originally posted by Unlucky 13
                        I'd love to see something like this in The Show. I'd love it even more in Madden. I want to take the colors and logos of one team, and mix them with the styles and themes of others. However, as was basically said, the leagues' prohibit the game makers from doing it, for whatever reason. Why I cannot alter a uniform to play a game by myself in my house is beyond me, but they don't want to allow it.
                        They are worried about protecting the brand for each franchise.

                        But from a legal standpoint it shouldn't be an issue to just give a pure uniform editor from scratch and allow blank uniform slots to be assigned to each team. That is different than allowing you slap a team's trademarked logo on something within the game. You would be slapping your own picture file of a team's trademarked logo onto a fake uniform within your own game haha.

                        Each league is different though. The NHL is not nearly as protective with what you do with their logos and the video games for NHL have it so that you can create uniforms with real logos from the league and slap them on a template uniform with custom colors etc.

                        I am hoping that MLBtS could give us the option to share our creations for download and offline use. I am sure it would have to be cleared with legal, but that is my hope.

                        Any idea how long ago this was discussed, Knight?

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                        • Knight165
                          *ll St*r
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #13
                          Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

                          Originally posted by bigwill33
                          They are worried about protecting the brand for each franchise.

                          But from a legal standpoint it shouldn't be an issue to just give a pure uniform editor from scratch and allow blank uniform slots to be assigned to each team. That is different than allowing you slap a team's trademarked logo on something within the game. You would be slapping your own picture file of a team's trademarked logo onto a fake uniform within your own game haha.

                          Each league is different though. The NHL is not nearly as protective with what you do with their logos and the video games for NHL have it so that you can create uniforms with real logos from the league and slap them on a template uniform with custom colors etc.

                          I am hoping that MLBtS could give us the option to share our creations for download and offline use. I am sure it would have to be cleared with legal, but that is my hope.

                          Any idea how long ago this was discussed, Knight?

                          Kolbe was still there....so quite some time ago.
                          If this was ever added, I wonder if you'd be able to load MLB uniforms for editing?
                          Can you do that in the DD editor?(never used it)

                          I know one thing....every MLB/MiLB uniform ever worn would be in the Uniform Vault!

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                          • Unlucky 13
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 1707

                            #14
                            Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

                            Originally posted by bigwill33
                            They are worried about protecting the brand for each franchise.

                            But from a legal standpoint it shouldn't be an issue to just give a pure uniform editor from scratch and allow blank uniform slots to be assigned to each team. That is different than allowing you slap a team's trademarked logo on something within the game. You would be slapping your own picture file of a team's trademarked logo onto a fake uniform within your own game haha.

                            Each league is different though. The NHL is not nearly as protective with what you do with their logos and the video games for NHL have it so that you can create uniforms with real logos from the league and slap them on a template uniform with custom colors etc.

                            I am hoping that MLBtS could give us the option to share our creations for download and offline use. I am sure it would have to be cleared with legal, but that is my hope.

                            Any idea how long ago this was discussed, Knight?
                            So if I use a real logo on a fake uniform that I created, I might forget and think that its real? LOL (not snark at you, at the league)
                            Anyone who claims to be a fan of two teams in the same pro sport is actually a fan of none.

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                            • MauerMorneau09
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 675

                              #15
                              Re: How feasible would a uniform creator be?

                              Originally posted by Knight165
                              Kolbe was still there....so quite some time ago.
                              If this was ever added, I wonder if you'd be able to load MLB uniforms for editing?
                              Can you do that in the DD editor?(never used it)

                              I know one thing....every MLB/MiLB uniform ever worn would be in the Uniform Vault!

                              M.K.
                              Knight165
                              I would love to see the ability to upload logos online with the creator, would definitely make things more accurate. Also interested to here about the uniform creator almost being put in the game awhile back. Never knew that. But it's good to know you'll be able to have a little push for the uniform creator hopefully making it in the game eventually.

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