WAR in the show

[brettryantalley]

I know we've had this discussion before a few years ago, but i believe the conversation sort of ended with the idea that since there are overall ratings, WAR being represented isn't really necessary.

Well, i just wanted to throw it out there again to see what everyone thought. As I work through a franchise, I think it would be awesome to be able to see how guys are performing via WAR. My 2nd basemen has a slash line of .245/.342/.481, has good speed and great defense. Every time he comes to the plate, Matty V is always talking about how it's been a rough year because his batting average is low. I can't help but think if they calculated WAR in the game, he'd probably be top 3 on the team although there are other guys with higher averages. So, i'd love that it could help round out the value of performance for guys rather than offensive numbers.

I can't imagine how difficult it might be to actually calculate this, though. Especially when you'd have to throw in the baserunning and defensive side of things.

So...what would you think of WAR in the show? Useless? Helpful?

[Ghost Of The Year]

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WAR would be nice to have, esp. once we have more advanced stats and season to season stat tracking. Maybe by 16. or 17. or

[redsox4evur]

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Which WAR are we talking, bWar, fWar?

[brettryantalley]

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mlbtsWAR i'm guessing. it would probably be their own formula. but what do i know.

[JoeCoolMan24]

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Which WAR are we talking, bWar, fWar?

fWAR, ALWAYS fWAR.


And to the OP, I don't understand why having an "overall" in the game would be a reason not to include WAR. It's not a rating system, it's a reflection of a total season's performance. That's like saying they won't show HR totals in The Show because they already have PWR ratings. Those things aren't mutually exclusive.

[Bobhead]

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MLB doesn't even want arguments in The Show. I doubt they'd allow a full-fledged war.

[brettryantalley]

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fWAR, ALWAYS fWAR.





And to the OP, I don't understand why having an "overall" in the game would be a reason not to include WAR. It's not a rating system, it's a reflection of a total season's performance. That's like saying they won't show HR totals in The Show because they already have PWR ratings. Those things aren't mutually exclusive.

I'm with you. I don't think that's a good reason. From what I remember about the thread a few years ago, that seem to be the consensus among some of the posters. Maybe I'm "misremembering" tho (#clemens).


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[dazzelle]

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Off topic:But why doesn't this stat pop up often when playing games,i have played hundreds of games and never saw the top WAR rankings before,Until i was watching a demo and the stat overlay showed the top WAR for pitchers.

Makes me wonder what other stat overlays don't display very often.

[HozAndMoose]

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Off topic:But why doesn't this stat pop up often when playing games,i have played hundreds of games and never saw the top WAR rankings before,Until i was watching a demo and the stat overlay showed the top WAR for pitchers.

Makes me wonder what other stat overlays don't display very often.

WAR isnt in the game so how did you see it?

[dazzelle]

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WAR isnt in the game so how did you see it?

I am positive i saw it and hearing matt say something new,"here are the top win's above replacement..", after 100's of games in 14 alone was what made me look up at the screen.

I had never heard of WAR before and when i saw the thread title reminded me about seeing it and also what other stat overlays may not pop up.

Maybe only a stat that shows in exhibition games taken from the 2013 season.

[YankeeNO2]

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From what I had read, it was a memory issue like the all star game wearing the correct jerseys, that's why they can't have WAR in the game

[Bobhead]

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Memory is why more stats aren't in, in general.

But even now with more memory, I'd be very surprised if WAR, in particular, ever found itself in The Show. There are just so many obstacles. From dealing with UZR, to getting around the formulas (which are not public domain). It's certainly not impossible, but it won't be easy. SCEA seems like they'd rather spend those resources in more efficient ways.

I expect to see more stats added, but I don't expect WAR to be one of them.

[kehlis]

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Memory is why more stats aren't in, in general.

It's been stated many times though that memory is no longer an issue with the ps4.

[MrOldboy]

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I still think that the game could really use a performance metric similar to WAR that the AI uses to make decisions on player value in combination with the ratings. It would make it easier to understand the AI's decisions in trades, FA, lineups, etc. if it was more clear what it is looking at.

It doesn't need to be WAR or fWAR or whatever. It can be a made up metric that the devs come up with, but I would like it split into defensive, offensive and total "WAR".

Even if the AI now uses stats, ratings, etc for it's decisions I feel like using some overall metric to gauge player value would go a long way in helping the end user understand how the game operates.

Why did payer X win MVP? Oh his ShowValue rating was 15.3.

or

Why did the CPU make this trade when they are only rated 83? Oh his performance gave him a ShowValue of 8.3 over the season so far, so he is a bit overvalued by the games AI.

Since it would be hard to tie performance to rating increases/decreases this wouldn't really matter that much in the long run since as the human player you know the actual ratings and that is what affects gameplay.

[bigwill33]

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It's been stated many times though that memory is no longer an issue with the ps4.

I don't know about that. RR just said tonight that memory limitations were the issue when it came to having home and road specific accessories.

Memory will always be an issue at the end of the day.