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  • WaitTilNextYear
    Go Cubs Go
    • Mar 2013
    • 16830

    #181
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

    Originally posted by P.A.D.
    And this is precisely my point. The manager automatically comes out but we as the user have to be able to discern whether or not to challenge the play. And if we choose not to and the call was wrong, we're forced to stick with the bad call, whereas the CPU doesn't have to worry about this because . . . well, the call is always right, as per Woodweaver.

    That makes the challenges system completely pointless. Well, it's not fair to the user, so let's just shut it off. But I want realism and realistically, umpires make bad calls so I want to keep it on. But now I'm immediately at a disadvantage because I can still get screwed with bad calls whereas the CPU cannot.
    Can you look at a replay before being forced to decide to go with the challenge or not? If you can see the play as many times as you need from different angles before deciding, then that should help make the decisions work out better. Of course, then the issue might be, does the replay have high enough fidelity in depicting the play that just happened? You'd hate for it to clearly be out by replay, but the challenge coming out safe just because the replay isn't an accurate portrayal.
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    • artgamer72
      Banned
      • Mar 2015
      • 82

      #182
      So far there doesn't appear to have been enough adjustments to gameplay and existing side features to warrant a purchase this year. Might pick this one up at discount.

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      • seanjeezy
        The Future
        • Aug 2009
        • 3347

        #183
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

        Here's a good example of the risk that comes with charging a hard hit ball in the outfield, courtesy of Rymer Liriano in today's M's vs Padres game:

        <iframe src='http://m.mlb.com/shared/video/embed/embed.html?content_id=40415883&topic_id=8877490&wi dth=400&height=224&property=mlb' width='400' height='224' frameborder='0'>Your browser does not support iframes.</iframe>

        Anybody see much of this in the game? It would certainly deter the CPU's aggressiveness on hard hit balls. Same thing with the CPU fielding balls off the wall on the run then subsequently running into the wall, there should be a risk of the ball getting by.
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        • bcruise
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2004
          • 23274

          #184
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

          Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
          Can you look at a replay before being forced to decide to go with the challenge or not? If you can see the play as many times as you need from different angles before deciding, then that should help make the decisions work out better. Of course, then the issue might be, does the replay have high enough fidelity in depicting the play that just happened? You'd hate for it to clearly be out by replay, but the challenge coming out safe just because the replay isn't an accurate portrayal.
          Judging from the stream you get one look at a replay as the timer to challenge is counting down (plus the look live of course).

          The question of how detailed the replays are is a good one - we know they're compressed to some degree and things don't always happen the exact same way the replay showed them.

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          • MrOldboy
            MVP
            • Feb 2011
            • 2653

            #185
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

            Originally posted by Turbojugend
            Agreed. It's just that some of the heavily crowd-oriented cutscenes got really bogged down last year, which detracted from the experience.
            True, but the presentation comes second in my mind in terms of the framerate. I want to see the ball coming in at 60 fps, if they can get that down at every stadium from the default catcher view then I will be very happy. Everything beyond that would be gravy.

            If you want to experience The Show at 60 or near 60 fps, wait for certain batter walkups where the batter takes up most of the screen. There were several last year where I muttered to myself "I wish the whole game looked like this".

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            • ShowTyme15
              LADetermined
              • Jan 2004
              • 11853

              #186
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

              Originally posted by seanjeezy
              Here's a good example of the risk that comes with charging a hard hit ball in the outfield, courtesy of Rymer Liriano in today's M's vs Padres game:

              <iframe src='http://m.mlb.com/shared/video/embed/embed.html?content_id=40415883&topic_id=8877490&wi dth=400&height=224&property=mlb' width='400' height='224' frameborder='0'>Your browser does not support iframes.</iframe>

              Anybody see much of this in the game? It would certainly deter the CPU's aggressiveness on hard hit balls. Same thing with the CPU fielding balls off the wall on the run then subsequently running into the wall, there should be a risk of the ball getting by.
              Saw Justin Upton's bomb on TV. Also saw Choi break his shin too. Tough break for him. No pun intended.

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              • dazzelle
                Pro
                • Oct 2008
                • 684

                #187
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                With player emotion animations,are there any player specific/unique animations or is it only a few different fist pump type animations.

                I liked the replay when kirby hit the 3 run dbl,showed the whole field and stayed with the shot for awhile showing the runners advancing,don't think i have seen that replay before.

                The shots/post pitch shots of the stadium look great,hope there's a good variety for each stadium.

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                • green94
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 3131

                  #188
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                  I keep hearing different things related to presentation (Clouds moving, shadows moving during games) that the devs keep claiming are "new" things to the game this year.

                  Did I miss something or were these removed from the PS4 version last year?

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                  • ajblithe20
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 845

                    #189
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                    Originally posted by green94
                    I keep hearing different things related to presentation (Clouds moving, shadows moving during games) that the devs keep claiming are "new" things to the game this year.



                    Did I miss something or were these removed from the PS4 version last year?

                    I don't know the details about everything. I think the shadows and everything are very much improved though. The lighting in general is.

                    I'm pretty sure that clouds always moved, but it was after a pitch or batter. Now you can just sit there, do nothing, and watch them move I believe. Not 100% sure on those though


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                    • hunterdawgs10
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 214

                      #190
                      Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                      In the stream the shadows never made it on to the field. Was this a mid summer game? I don't know much about Busch Stadium so maybe this is normal.

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                      • Joey
                        Pr*
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1836

                        #191
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                        I believe what you're thinking about is when they were commenting on how the sunlight reflects off the pitcher's back (when applicable) during his delivery.
                        Originally posted by green94
                        I keep hearing different things related to presentation (Clouds moving, shadows moving during games) that the devs keep claiming are "new" things to the game this year.

                        Did I miss something or were these removed from the PS4 version last year?

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                        • tnixen
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 3184

                          #192
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                          Originally posted by ajblithe20
                          I don't know the details about everything. I think the shadows and everything are very much improved though. The lighting in general is.

                          I'm pretty sure that clouds always moved, but it was after a pitch or batter. Now you can just sit there, do nothing, and watch them move I believe. Not 100% sure on those though


                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                          You are correct I think.

                          In MLB 14 The Show the clouds only moved after each pitch where as now in 15 they actually move in real time

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                          • Heroesandvillains
                            MVP
                            • May 2009
                            • 5974

                            #193
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                            Originally posted by nemesis04
                            When you played with close plays on last year did you feel you were at a disadvantage? If anything now you have the ability to correct some blown calls that went against you. With close plays on last year was the CPU affected?
                            Why wouldn't the CPU have been affected by having close plays on in 14?

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                            • green94
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3131

                              #194
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                              Originally posted by ajblithe20
                              I don't know the details about everything. I think the shadows and everything are very much improved though. The lighting in general is.

                              I'm pretty sure that clouds always moved, but it was after a pitch or batter. Now you can just sit there, do nothing, and watch them move I believe. Not 100% sure on those though


                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                              No doubt it is improved... It looks amazing.

                              I just recall seeing clouds moving and shadows shifting in previous iterations (not sure if they removed that from PS4 last year). I'm going to go boot up and see for myself!

                              Maybe I was seeing things

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                              • Padgoi
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1873

                                #195
                                Re: MLB 15 The Show Livestream - Live Gameplay with Senior A.I. Programmer

                                Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                                Why wouldn't the CPU have been affected by having close plays on in 14?
                                Again, this is my point. I felt last year the CPU was screwed with bad calls just as much as the user. This year doesn't seem to be the case because, as Woodweaver clearly stated, the AI doesn't make wrong calls for the CPU, only for the user, which is why the Challenges system is implemented only for the user. How exactly is this fair or realistic at all?

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