Progression/Regression

[TonGunne]

I wanna understand the progression/regression.

I'm playing with the Angels, 2017 and Mike Trout went to 90 (99 when start franchise).

I made the playoffs every season, Trout did never had an injury, RBI over 100 every year with more than 30 HR.

How the hell he is regressing that much? He is still pretty young!

[Ghost Of The Year]

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I wanna understand the progression/regression.

At the very least, I'd like 2 sliders for progression/regression,
one for regular season, one for off season.

[bronxbombers21325]

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Progression/Regression are supposed to be performance based this year. So this should be fixed. Someone I believe said that in the franchise stream though, there were no players over 35 in the top 10 of any team in some of t he later months. I didn't see it for myself, but this leads me to believe that regression may still be too extreme.

[HypoLuxa13]

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Progression/Regression are supposed to be performance based this year. So this should be fixed. Someone I believe said that in the franchise stream though, there were no players over 35 in the top 10 of any team in some of t he later months. I didn't see it for myself, but this leads me to believe that regression may still be too extreme.

So far, they've said MLB 15 has had the regression tuned. They've pushed back the age at which players begin to regress drastically. Also, as you mentioned, there are performance factors that can influence regression. It doesn't sound like it is performance based, but a player performing well should regress slower this year as he gets older. I suppose that also means a player who is struggling may regress faster than his age may indicate.

[MLB Bob]

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although they have stated progression/regression does factor in stats this year (I dont understand why they'd do this or why people want it) when athletes get older, they slow down, their recovery slows down, their response times are not as quick. When these things are start happening around the same time things compound and regression can come crashing down suddenly and or sharply.

Also there are some athletes that, for whatever reason, dont have the steady decline and can have a bit more longevity, but its not based on how great they started out being. Just because you hit 35 hrs, steal 35 bases and get 100 RBI (RBI which has nothing to do with anything anyway) does not mean they will regress to 32hr then 30 hrs then 25, it could be sharp and sudden. Its not always due t injury. People remember the outliers instead of the norms.

[bronxbombers21325]

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although they have stated progression/regression does factor in stats this year (I dont understand why they'd do this or why people want it) when athletes get older, they slow down, their recovery slows down, their response times are not as quick. When these things are start happening around the same time things compound and regression can come crashing down suddenly and or sharply.

Also there are some athletes that, for whatever reason, dont have the steady decline and can have a bit more longevity, but its not based on how great they started out being. Just because you hit 35 hrs, steal 35 bases and get 100 RBI (RBI which has nothing to do with anything anyway) does not mean they will regress to 32hr then 30 hrs then 25, it could be sharp and sudden. Its not always due t injury. People remember the outliers instead of the norms.

CC Sabathia came to mind when I read this. CC went from an ace, to the current version of himself seemingly overnight.

[jcar0725]

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Maybe there should be a 'roid option in the game. With the risk of getting caught and suspended. Lol.

[jaysfan17]

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At the very least, I'd like 2 sliders for progression/regression,
one for regular season, one for off season.

I like that idea too.

[Steelers4190]

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My biggest complaint was that the regression was hardly based on age. There have been times I have had a guy make my big league roster at 21-22 then start to decline like hell at 28ish while also having late bloomers make my club at 27ish and being productive till 34-35 before declining like hell. It just seemed to me that it was based off number of productive seasons as opposed to age.....but maybe that was just me

[TonGunne]

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My biggest complaint was that the regression was hardly based on age. There have been times I have had a guy make my big league roster at 21-22 then start to decline like hell at 28ish while also having late bloomers make my club at 27ish and being productive till 34-35 before declining like hell. It just seemed to me that it was based off number of productive seasons as opposed to age.....but maybe that was just me

Thats the problem! How the hell Trout would be regressing at 27 when he is having great seasons? I think thats the point, number of seasons affect more than age!

[Cavicchi]

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Thats the problem! How the hell Trout would be regressing at 27 when he is having great seasons? I think thats the point, number of seasons affect more than age!

I don't think it had anything to do with Trout's number of seasons. I had Trout losing attribute points before age 25, and it had nothing to do with his production.

Remember, since they changed it this year to have production play a role in progression, if you don't get the pitch, or if well-timed swings produce nothing, it's not the batter's fault.