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  • Keirik
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 3770

    #61
    Re: Sony Shutting Down MLB 14 Online Servers

    Originally posted by countryboy
    I would be willing to bet that a VAST majority of the fanbase for MLB '14 will migrate over to MLB '15 before June.
    Probably, but i dont see why thats justification to drop 14's servers so quick.
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    • cusefan74
      MVP
      • Jul 2010
      • 2408

      #62
      Re: Sony Shutting Down MLB 14 Online Servers

      Originally posted by Keirik
      Probably, but i dont see why thats justification to drop 14's servers so quick.
      It's a justification if it saves them time and money not having to keep them going. Instead of complaining that they are shutting the severs down in June, you should be thankful. They could shut them down a lot sooner, like they have done in the past.

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52697

        #63
        Re: Sony Shutting Down MLB 14 Online Servers

        Originally posted by Keirik
        Probably, but i dont see why thats justification to drop 14's servers so quick.
        the justification would be, and i don't know for sure,

        a) money being spent on last year's game that could be more useful being spent elsewhere on the game

        b) taking down those servers allows them to dedicate resources to the servers of the new game.
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        • My993C2
          MVP
          • Sep 2012
          • 1588

          #64
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Online Servers Closing on June 18th

          Originally posted by UrbanMerc
          I am disgusted every time I see stories like this. Sports games are, in my humble opinion, the truest example of what is wrong in gaming today. They offer the LEAST amount of value of all the genre's that exist today. Why don't they just admit to what they are really doing, and have been doing for years? What sports games REALLY are is a subscription model. To be quite frank, $60 is just too high of a price for new sports games as a subscription. Especially since they starting taking stuff that was included in yearly releases out and decided to start gouging us financially for them as "DLC". Sports games have become a joke in the value department since the beginning of the LAST generation. That is why I, for one, no longer buy yearly releases for that reason alone. While I used to think my yearly financial support would in turn force the game to continue getting better, I have been unfortunately proven wrong year over year. Just look at this games online. I don't know which is worse anymore, NBA 2K or The Show? For ONCE I would like to see one of these leading developers say, "you know what, were going to release a $25 dollar update this year with rosters, schedules, and uniforms so we can take that PURE PROFIT to tide us over for another year so we can release the next iteration in the manner it is SUPPOSED to be, which is a truly enhanced and upgraded version."

          But that will never happen. If we had a true consumers agency looking out for people like us, we would see a minimum three year rule with regards to the matter of servers for today's games. I personally don't play certain modes in games because some of the trophies require too much of an extended commitment to a title that might not even be out a year before I would have to move on to the latest version. I didn't buy NBA 2K14 last year, I haven't bought a Madden game since 2010, and I will not be buying The Show 15 this year because I am sure it will be only a marginal upgrade not worthy of the full price. If I am proven to be wrong, so be it. Maybe I MIGHT change my mind. But, I doubt it.

          EA's Tiger Woods series one year released less than a year after the previous. THAT is what has made me keep to my new games buying habit. I just got tired of having to re-buy courses I had already paid too much for, again and again. There is just no value in sports games anymore FOR ME to justify buying a yearly release. In fact, that is not only true with sports games, that goes for games in general. I have significantly reduced my spending over the past few years because this industry has lost its way and is no longer as entertaining to me as it once was. Quality has taken such a nosedive in recent years, I just can't stomach spending the money I used to on my hobby anymore. I could talk about this subject for hours, but I do have a life. I just hope some of you would adopt the same philosophy if only to send the message.

          I love The Show, but, sorry boy's, you're not getting my money this year. I'll wait for next years game.
          I agree with some of what you say concerning these sports titles. I myself routinely skip years. I am a huge hockey and football fan, but I usually skip the NHL and Madden titles every 2-3 years. I only got NBA2K14 last year when I picked up my PS4 as it had this reputation for being the best game at it's time to show case the graphics of the new console. But I skipped NBA2K15 because the 14 version still plays well for me when I do get around to playing the game. Also I fully support your right to skip MLB 15 The Show. But I think you are mistaken when you say MLB 15 is a marginal update, because it isn't. I myself was looking for an excuse to skip MLB 15, but after looking at the list of changes and watching almost all of the streams, I am convinced that MLB 15 has enough improvements to reward SCEA and they get to take more of my $$$ from me this year. Then again I am an offline user, so having the MLB 14 servers shut down has little effect on me. But you folks also have to be aware that these servers do cost money to maintain. If using the hardware on the MLB 15 title makes online play better for this year, then that is the price to pay. Unless you are a "Here's your job for life no matter how incompetent you are and you get to retire at an early age" government worker, nothing is free in this world.
          Last edited by My993C2; 03-21-2015, 12:27 PM.

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          • Keirik
            MVP
            • Mar 2003
            • 3770

            #65
            Re: Sony Shutting Down MLB 14 Online Servers

            Originally posted by cusefan74
            It's a justification if it saves them time and money not having to keep them going. Instead of complaining that they are shutting the severs down in June, you should be thankful. They could shut them down a lot sooner, like they have done in the past.
            Thankful? Come on now, I know we love this game and series but thankful? Thats the total wrong atititude. People are allowed to voice some displeasure as long as its constructive.

            I already have 15 Anniversary edition prepaid digitally. That doesnt mean I cant see something negative here.
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            • sbauer318
              MVP
              • Mar 2004
              • 2511

              #66
              Re: Sony Shutting Down MLB 14 Online Servers

              Originally posted by cusefan74
              It's a justification if it saves them time and money not having to keep them going. Instead of complaining that they are shutting the severs down in June, you should be thankful. They could shut them down a lot sooner, like they have done in the past.
              This is great. We should thank them for not screwing us as bad as they've done in the past. We all paid for the game. If they need the money bad enough to shut the servers off 13 months after the PS4 version launched, then something is wrong and they need to look elsewhere for the answer.

              13 months of online support is not good enough, I'm sorry. I don't care what the game is and how much I love it.
              Last edited by sbauer318; 03-21-2015, 02:22 PM.
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              • Ghost Of The Year
                Sweet Emotion.
                • Mar 2014
                • 6343

                #67
                Re: MLB 14 The Show Online Servers Closing on June 18th

                Originally posted by UrbanMerc
                ...Sports games are, in my humble opinion, the truest example of what is wrong in gaming today. They offer the LEAST amount of value of all the genre's that exist today... What sports games REALLY are is a subscription model. To be quite frank, $60 is just too high of a price for new sports games as a subscription... Sports games have become a joke in the value department since the beginning of the LAST generation... There is just no value in sports games anymore FOR ME to justify buying a yearly release. In fact, that is not only true with sports games, that goes for games in general.
                I can agree this holds true for some people, just not all of us. I'd rather play a sports game than any other genre, & if a game is $65, at 18 cents a day, I certainly get great value for my dollar for a year. My 2 cent opinion.
                T-BONE.

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                • CurlyDub34
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 34

                  #68
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Online Servers Closing on June 18th

                  While I understand why those who are upset are angry about this, I just can't see how it makes sense from a business perspective to keep them open longer. It makes sense to give higher priority to customers who are paying for your product year in and year out as opposed to those who buy it once and don't get next years version or even the following years version. I would think that a vast majority of users upgrade to the next years game, especially since SCEA does a great job improving this game every year.

                  Assumption, shutting down the servers allows them to improve the online experience for MLB 15. If this assumption holds true, why would they dampen the experience of their current and more loyal customers by keeping the old servers open longer? Especially since there was a lot of backlash from the community about the quality of online play last year, another year or two of poor online playability could be disastrous for this product. More than likely they have done analysis on how much more money in stubs purchases they are losing by not keeping these open and I'm sure they found it more profitable to shut it down.

                  And frankly, as really the only option for a baseball game out there, you can't exactly boycott them if you want to play an up-to-date baseball game.

                  Just my two cents.

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                  • rman
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 351

                    #69
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Online Servers Closing on June 18th

                    Hello, I'm I the only one that cares about the cross play feature? Who cares about online play? Really, it has been garbage IMO forever. Once the servers goes so does the cross play for PS3, Vita and PS4. The big feature that was the highlight this year is carrying over your franchise, season and RTTS from 14 to 15. If you own a PS3 or Vita you are SOL you will not be able to carry it over to the PS4 after they shut down the servers unless you did before hand. That is some bad bad stuff in my book.

                    Peter Brown is joined by Ramone Russell and Nick Livingston of Sony San Diego Studios to talk about the new features coming to MLB 15 The Show and check out some of the new gameplay.


                    Skip to 11:50 once the severs get shut off the cloud is gone just like in MLB 13...right Ramone? I'm really upset that my MLB 13 franchise is obsolete to play between the PS3 and Vita because the cloud is gone.

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                    • Jimmydm90
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 405

                      #70
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Online Servers Closing on June 18th

                      In response to the people saying that shutting down the 14 servers is ok because it will help 15's online capabilities, if it really made that big of a difference why would Sony wait over 2 and a half months after MLB 15's release to do it?

                      Surely those two months are when the game has the most online traffic. Bad online was something they were skewered for last year so surely they'd want give themselves the best opportunity right out the gate.

                      I don't know for sure but I strongly doubt shutting down 14's servers will have much of an impact on MLB 15. There probably aren't even that many servers running MLB 14 as it is, right now.

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                      • cnh2os84
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 203

                        #71
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Online Servers Closing on June 18th

                        Originally posted by rman
                        Hello, I'm I the only one that cares about the cross play feature? Who cares about online play? Really, it has been garbage IMO forever. Once the servers goes so does the cross play for PS3, Vita and PS4. The big feature that was the highlight this year is carrying over your franchise, season and RTTS from 14 to 15. If you own a PS3 or Vita you are SOL you will not be able to carry it over to the PS4 after they shut down the servers unless you did before hand. That is some bad bad stuff in my book.



                        Peter Brown is joined by Ramone Russell and Nick Livingston of Sony San Diego Studios to talk about the new features coming to MLB 15 The Show and check out some of the new gameplay.




                        Skip to 11:50 once the severs get shut off the cloud is gone just like in MLB 13...right Ramone? I'm really upset that my MLB 13 franchise is obsolete to play between the PS3 and Vita because the cloud is gone.

                        This is a BIG deal for me too! They need to find someway to make it that you can transfer saves from vita to PS4 with the usb cable instead of using the cloud if they are going to be shutting down servers.

                        The claim was that you can play the same franchise or RTTS on BOTH ps4 and vita and you should be able to do this longer than a year! Having usb file transfer support would allow this to be possible while still shutting down the servers.

                        Also, a new big feature was supposed to be that you can continue your franchise from MLB 14 with the new game. Well if you don't get MLB 15 till after the 14 servers are down you won't be able to do this, to my understanding.

                        Know that I do plan on purchasing MLB 15 for BOTH ps4 and vita and I should be able to play the same OFFLINE franchise on both for more than one year!


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                        • My993C2
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 1588

                          #72
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Online Servers Closing on June 18th

                          Originally posted by cnh2os84
                          This is a BIG deal for me too! They need to find someway to make it that you can transfer saves from vita to PS4 with the usb cable instead of using the cloud if they are going to be shutting down servers.

                          The claim was that you can play the same franchise or RTTS on BOTH ps4 and vita and you should be able to do this longer than a year! Having usb file transfer support would allow this to be possible while still shutting down the servers.

                          Also, a new big feature was supposed to be that you can continue your franchise from MLB 14 with the new game. Well if you don't get MLB 15 till after the 14 servers are down you won't be able to do this, to my understanding.

                          Know that I do plan on purchasing MLB 15 for BOTH ps4 and vita and I should be able to play the same OFFLINE franchise on both for more than one year!
                          I have less sympathy for people complaining about online game play with last year's servers. But this is definitely an issue if people are unable to transfer save files between their PS devices. If people have not voiced their concerns about this to the game maker, they need to do that now. Hopefully future releases of the game could be restructured to ensure the save files can be transferred either through supported cloud saves or through a USB thumb drive. Otherwise what is the point of hyping the cross platform year to year saves if they only support the feature for people with the latest release.
                          Last edited by My993C2; 03-22-2015, 12:24 PM.

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                          • NYGiants4Natic
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2046

                            #73
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Online Servers Closing on June 18th

                            Base on some of the answers I am seeing here which are not shocking considering the rep that the MLB The Show forum has on OS I am shocked that many are not saying that SCEA should charge double for the game because it is a reason for living.

                            If the online servers are such a disgrace which they are then why don't they try and use those resources to improve the game more then just a coat of paint year after year.

                            So we must let them remove the online portion of the previous years game and say is ok because it sucks and those resources can go to this years game? really? Do any of you really feel that the game this year will have better online performance? I dont think so and so if that is the case then why are we not making a bigger deal that a sports games which are mainly played online vs friends and randoms or online franchises is getting away with having a terrible service and removing it from the previous years game while not improving the new version at all.

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                            • Ghost Of The Year
                              Sweet Emotion.
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 6343

                              #74
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show Online Servers Closing on June 18th

                              Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic
                              ...why are we not making a bigger deal that a sports games which are mainly played online vs friends and randoms or online franchises is getting away with having a terrible service and removing it from the previous years game while not improving the new version at all.
                              Because games are mainly played offline, not online. If they were, we'd hear a far louder outcry.
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                              • HustlinOwl
                                All Star
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 9713

                                #75
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Online Servers Closing on June 18th

                                Originally posted by NYGiants4Natic
                                Base on some of the answers I am seeing here which are not shocking considering the rep that the MLB The Show forum has on OS I am shocked that many are not saying that SCEA should charge double for the game because it is a reason for living.

                                If the online servers are such a disgrace which they are then why don't they try and use those resources to improve the game more then just a coat of paint year after year.

                                So we must let them remove the online portion of the previous years game and say is ok because it sucks and those resources can go to this years game? really? Do any of you really feel that the game this year will have better online performance? I dont think so and so if that is the case then why are we not making a bigger deal that a sports games which are mainly played online vs friends and randoms or online franchises is getting away with having a terrible service and removing it from the previous years game while not improving the new version at all.
                                The rep lmao MLB The Show is heavily criticized for their online portion here on OS what are you talking about??? Never knew this many people cared about online here, but think some are simply making it a bigger deal than it really is

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