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I don't know about the Cubs. They definitely have enough depth of prospects. They could also use him but I'm not sure what their interest is for THIS year compared to 2 years from now after their young guys get some experience.Originally posted by J.R._RiderIf the Red Sox or the Cubs look like they're for real come June, and start showing interest in Cueto, things will get quite interesting.
I see only the Dodgers, Cardinals, Red Sox, White Sox, Cubs, and Orioles being interested in him if they're contending.Comment
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The Cubs need pitching they have enough offense. Right now the only guy they have that I want pitching for me in the playoffs is Lester. Add Cueto to that and that would help. And IMO the Cubs are closer to being a contender than the ChiSox.I don't know about the Cubs. They definitely have enough depth of prospects. They could also use him but I'm not sure what their interest is for THIS year compared to 2 years from now after their young guys get some experience.
I see only the Dodgers, Cardinals, Red Sox, White Sox, Cubs, and Orioles being interested in him if they're contending.Comment
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Sorry I meant I wasn't sure if the Cubs wanted to commit all the way for this year or keep some younger guys and wait for them to progress and seriously go all in later. I agree though, they have the need and depth to trade away. It would make a nice 1-2 for the postseason though!
I just don't see teams like the Pirates going after him.Comment
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Yeah there are so many scenarios, I can see all making a move for either him or Hamels. It should make for a very interesting trade deadline. There are a few big name pitchers that will for sure make a splash!Originally posted by J.R._RiderIf the Cubs look like they have a real shot at winning the division this year, I could see Theo hitting the fast forward button and speeding their plans up a bit. The Orioles just don't have the money to keep Cueto, so I think they'd have to be in a position where they really felt like they could contend and felt comfortable with a rental. The White Sox have some funds, but I don't know. Hard to imagine they'll be all that competitive in that division this year, so maybe they wait til the winter when they can make Cueto an offer that doesn't cost them any pieces. The Cardinals are kind of interesting. They don't have a ton of money like the Dodgers or the Red Sox, and a lot of it is locked up already. I have no idea what will become of Jason Heyward in St. Louis. Maybe they extend him and he stays, maybe he goes. There is a willingness there to spend and take chances, though.
The one inherent disadvantage both the Cards and the Cubs have is a general unwillingness to trade within a teams own division. I imagine that sentiment is only amplified when the player in question is of Cueto's caliber.Comment
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Ruiz to Arizona for Chris Owings. They need some MI help that can contribute right away.
Utley will likely retire in Philly but if you want to move him, a contending Oakland team comes to mind. Look for something like Eric Sogard and Sean Nolin/Kendall Graveman in returnFormer modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.
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Cam, just to be clear, I was talking about his value in last year's trade sheet. He rated B/C+ and I was saying he still is around that value for me (I'd list his good qualities but if you're trying to trade for him, you know them). Ideally, it would be a pitcher in between a Shipley and Touki type...you just don't have one of those. I'm struggling to come up with a comparable, it's not Reyes to Miami...maybe Myers to SD value wise but that's a mess to sort out. Though, you probably could get out the door cheaper if you brought a 3rd team in the mix...which would complicate things even further, yeesh, never mind.He was a replacement level SS last year who didn't even get on base 30% of the time. His numbers were low, and while he did have personal issues, that doesn't mean his value stays the same. His value certainly decrease, but not to the point where he isn't worth one of a team's T10 prospects."for love of the game" - B. ChapelComment
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Originally posted by J.R._RiderAbout Segura's value, two things. First, I'm just not sure he's ever going to be the guy he was offensively in 2013 again. That doesn't mean he can't or won't be a serviceable bat, and really in the current climate you're just not going to find that many plus average and/or power shortstops available. He's also been, and will probably continue to be, just okay in the field. Combine those factors with the fact that he's a free agent after this season, and it becomes a bit harder to justify a bonafide top ten prospect as the blanket asking price.
He's first year arbitration eligible next year. Free agent in 2019. He's 25."for love of the game" - B. ChapelComment
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Oh, well it changes, just not dramatically. My mistake, I misunderstood what you said.Cam, just to be clear, I was talking about his value in last year's trade sheet. He rated B/C+ and I was saying he still is around that value for me (I'd list his good qualities but if you're trying to trade for him, you know them). Ideally, it would be a pitcher in between a Shipley and Touki type...you just don't have one of those. I'm struggling to come up with a comparable, it's not Reyes to Miami...maybe Myers to SD value wise but that's a mess to sort out. Though, you probably could get out the door cheaper if you brought a 3rd team in the mix...which would complicate things even further, yeesh, never mind.
I think Segura is probably a mid/low B, and a high C. Bradley is an A, Shipley is a High B, Blair is a High B. Those guys are off limits for me in Segura talks. Touki is a low B, and I would consider him in a deal, as I have a plethora of young RHPs in the system.
Oh god, no way I replicate that Myers deal. That deal is hard to sort out. But I still don't think that's a fair comparison of value. Myers>>>Segura.
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Maybe it is something like Toussaint/Ray/Mejia. You've got nothing invested in the last two and Mejia is a lottery ticket. Maybe a RP coming back from MIL to even everything out.Oh, well it changes, just not dramatically. My mistake, I misunderstood what you said.
I think Segura is probably a mid/low B, and a high C. Bradley is an A, Shipley is a High B, Blair is a High B. Those guys are off limits for me in Segura talks. Touki is a low B, and I would consider him in a deal, as I have a plethora of young RHPs in the system.
Oh god, no way I replicate that Myers deal. That deal is hard to sort out. But I still don't think that's a fair comparison of value. Myers>>>Segura.
I don't think a third team is needed, they have what I need (MIF), I have what they need (Pitching)."for love of the game" - B. ChapelComment
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Touissant can't be dealt yet and I feel like ARZ holds him in higher regard than most but someone close to his actual talent level would be fair
Why are you looking at pitching for MIL though? They need premium position talent in their farm.
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