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  • JayD
    All Star
    • Mar 2004
    • 5457

    #1

    Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

    Has anyone else noticed that base runners never lead off? This goes for the CPU and human, if using auto base running. Yes I know you can make the human runner lead off.
  • NEOPARADIGM
    Banned
    • Jul 2009
    • 2788

    #2
    re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

    Yes I have noticed this.

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    • My993C2
      MVP
      • Sep 2012
      • 1588

      #3
      Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

      Originally posted by JayD
      Has anyone else noticed that base runners never lead off? This goes for the CPU and human, if using auto base running. Yes I know you can make the human runner lead off.
      I've already raise a defect on the issue. Please vote for it if this issue concerns you.

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      PS: my defect does state that it likely effects all game modes, but it is easiest observed using the MoM "Pressbox" or "Dugout" cameras.

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      • rjackson
        MVP
        • Apr 2005
        • 1661

        #4
        Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

        Am I missing something here? Every runner takes a lead that I've seen. Are you guys referring to adding to that lead, like taking a huge lead?

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        • My993C2
          MVP
          • Sep 2012
          • 1588

          #5
          Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

          Originally posted by rjackson
          Am I missing something here? Every runner takes a lead that I've seen. Are you guys referring to adding to that lead, like taking a huge lead?
          In previous years, the base runners would occasionally take an extra step. If they did, you could try and pick them off at 1st base which would cause them to have to dive back to the bag. But now in this MLB 15 build, since these base runners never take that extra step, they always get back to base safely standing up. In other words you will never be able to pick them off. Not sure what the actually averages are for pick offs in the real world are and not sure if MLB 14 came close to that average. But I am pretty sure 0% pick off success is not what we see in the real world.

          If this issue concerns you, please vote for the defect.

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          • therewillbechud
            Banned
            • Jun 2014
            • 192

            #6
            Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

            No they don't and it's brilliant. Now the CPU should lead off where it sees fit, but I use auto base running and last year was a nightmare trying to keep your own guys from getting constantly picked off because your backup catcher decides he needs that extra foot. I know you can just keep pressing R1 but that takes attention away from hitting. It's bad enough they still steal on their own when they feel like it, but I've learned to live with that.

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            • cusefan74
              MVP
              • Jul 2010
              • 2408

              #7
              Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

              I see them leading off, but not the extra step, which is fine. I just make them take the step myself if I am stealing.

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              • My993C2
                MVP
                • Sep 2012
                • 1588

                #8
                Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

                Originally posted by cusefan74
                I see them leading off, but not the extra step, which is fine. I just make them take the step myself if I am stealing.
                You're not concerned that your CPU opponent never takes the extra step?

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                • Heroesandvillains
                  MVP
                  • May 2009
                  • 5974

                  #9
                  Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

                  Originally posted by My993C2
                  You're not concerned that your CPU opponent never takes the extra step?
                  Is that true?

                  I'll be positive to look out for this later on.

                  I know they're stealing though. But yeah, they should be taking that extra step occasionally.

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                  • NEOPARADIGM
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 2788

                    #10
                    Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

                    Originally posted by cusefan74
                    I see them leading off, but not the extra step, which is fine.
                    It's not fine if it means it's literally impossible to pick off a runner, or if we're throwing out base-stealers at a higher rate than we should be because they're not taking the extra step, which would be the concerns here for me.

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                    • bcruise
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 23274

                      #11
                      Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

                      CPU was too easy to pick off last year IMO, because it took that extra step too often. The default lead it takes is fine to me, and it still manages to steal successfully.

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                      • My993C2
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1588

                        #12
                        Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

                        Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                        Is that true?

                        I'll be positive to look out for this later on.

                        I know they're stealing though. But yeah, they should be taking that extra step occasionally.
                        They definitely do steal and they do hit and runs. I never said they didn't. I am just saying they never take that extra step. This issue exists in all game modes, but the best place to observe the issue is to start up a MoM game as the home team, swap to the "Pressbox" camera, walk the first batter and you will see this batter never takes the extra step (repeat as necessary). Go back and do the same thing in MLB 14 and you will see them take the extra step. Not every time, but they do take the extra step in last years game. Also try picking off these base runners in your MLB 15 games. What you are going to see is that they will always get back to the base safely standing up. There is no longer the need to try and pick off the runner because you will never succeed.

                        If this issue concerns you, please vote for the defect because the only way SCEA is going to fix it is enough people say it is a problem.

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                        • cusefan74
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 2408

                          #13
                          Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

                          Originally posted by My993C2
                          You're not concerned that your CPU opponent never takes the extra step?

                          Why would it concern me? They are still stealing bases, in fact I haven't seen anyone get caught yet. I was thinking of messing with my sliders to fix it, but I just haven't done it yet.

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                          • JayD
                            All Star
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 5457

                            #14
                            Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

                            The CPU controlled player never takes an extra step. This is a problem and I am not sure why people are saying, "it's fine"

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                            • My993C2
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 1588

                              #15
                              Re: Auto Base Running: Runners never lead off

                              Originally posted by JayD
                              The CPU controlled player never takes an extra step. This is a problem and I am not sure why people are saying, "it's fine"
                              If the base runners were being picked off too easily, then that was a something that needed fixed. But people should not be happy that features are being removed from the game, especially when the features being removed are a big part of the real game.

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