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  • NorthSideSwag31
    Rookie
    • Mar 2015
    • 31

    #16
    Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

    If anything it is way too easy. 70+ speed I can swipe second over 90% of the time as can the CPU. It has been three years since taking an extra step helps at all. The same as the last few years you actually have less of a chance if you take an extra step. The only thing that I have noticed is different this year is that the last 2 years anytime the CPU took an extra step you picked them off unless you overthrew.

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    • extremeskins04
      That's top class!
      • Aug 2010
      • 3868

      #17
      Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

      I'm wondering if there was a dynamic patch or something because when I first started playing when the game came out I could steal easily but now I'm having a hard time even stealing with Mookie Betts or even Ben Revere.

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      • A_Quiet_Pro
        Banned
        • Feb 2013
        • 2572

        #18
        Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

        Originally posted by thiel82
        It's impossible for me. The pitcher immediately throws over after starting my lead, and picks me off 99% of the time. The PS4 controls on stealing are rough too. Not as bad as the Vita controls, but just...bleh.

        Any help?
        Are you talking about in regular games where you control everyone? Or RTTS where you're manually stealing? If it's regular then yeah, dont steal with anyone less than 80 spd, if it's RTTS, get your guy to at least an 85 spd first, and time your jumps great. (tip: Learn the pitchers head movements)

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        • extremeskins04
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          • Aug 2010
          • 3868

          #19
          Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

          Originally posted by A_Quiet_Pro
          Are you talking about in regular games where you control everyone? Or RTTS where you're manually stealing? If it's regular then yeah, dont steal with anyone less than 80 spd, if it's RTTS, get your guy to at least an 85 spd first, and time your jumps great. (tip: Learn the pitchers head movements)
          But we used to be able to steal with players with 50-70 speed. At least when this game released. It seems like players run slower now and the baserunning speed sliders are at default. Sometimes I can't even steal with guys with 80 speed and 70 stealing.

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          • A_Quiet_Pro
            Banned
            • Feb 2013
            • 2572

            #20
            Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

            Originally posted by extremeskins04
            But we used to be able to steal with players with 50-70 speed. At least when this game released. It seems like players run slower now and the baserunning speed sliders are at default. Sometimes I can't even steal with guys with 80 speed and 70 stealing.
            My RTTS guy is 99 spd, and at least 85 stl. And sometimes I still get picked off even with great jumps. (I'm just hesitant to adjust the baselining slider).

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            • Dolenz
              MVP
              • May 2014
              • 2056

              #21
              Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

              My RTTS guy has 90 Spd plus 7 in equipment and he steals everything. In AA I could steal at will, and even in AAA I can steal second even on slide steps. I have been thrown out a few times at 3rd in Triple A as catchers ratings are better.

              When I get to the majors, I will still steal second in most occasions but third will be more situational. I will mainly try third on pitchers with slow deliveries.

              I never take an extra lead. They will almost always throw over.

              Cheap Trick in RTTS: Watch the catcher. If the catcher shifts or does a jump move then the pitcher is actually delivering the pitch. I steal on catcher movement and not pitcher. Yes, I said it was cheap.

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              • A_Quiet_Pro
                Banned
                • Feb 2013
                • 2572

                #22
                Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

                Originally posted by Dolenz
                My RTTS guy has 90 Spd plus 7 in equipment and he steals everything. In AA I could steal at will, and even in AAA I can steal second even on slide steps. I have been thrown out a few times at 3rd in Triple A as catchers ratings are better.

                When I get to the majors, I will still steal second in most occasions but third will be more situational. I will mainly try third on pitchers with slow deliveries.

                I never take an extra lead. They will almost always throw over.

                Cheap Trick in RTTS: Watch the catcher. If the catcher shifts or does a jump move then the pitcher is actually delivering the pitch. I steal on catcher movement and not pitcher. Yes, I said it was cheap.
                See, I actually watch the pitchers head. (And it really only works on 2nd, stealing 3rd).. He'll look at you somewhat. If he only does it once, he's pitching, but you can't go, if he does it twice then soon after he turns his head back the second time, he's about to deliver.. but you still have to time your jump, because even with this I've left early once or twice and he's stepped off and got me. (Inversely though, if I've gotten a great jump I've usually swiped 3rd quite often).

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                • DeJohn11
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 193

                  #23
                  Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

                  I think one thing we're failing to mention is stealing is usually situational... what count is the batter in? Who's pitching? Who's catching? Has he thrown over? etc... All these factors usually lead to (un)successful attempts.
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                  • jaysfan17
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2015
                    • 69

                    #24
                    Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

                    Originally posted by kehlis
                    Try not leading off and not doing the hold release method.

                    You don't need to have an additional lead to steal and it's worked pretty well for me.





                    Oh, and don't try and steal with David Ortiz

                    Yesterday I was playing against the Red Sox and Ortiz singled. I notice he was rated zero in all running categories so I went to pick him off and he got back without a slide. Weird right? The strange part was he had a bigger lead than he takes in real life.

                    Originally posted by thiel82
                    It's impossible for me. The pitcher immediately throws over after starting my lead, and picks me off 99% of the time. The PS4 controls on stealing are rough too. Not as bad as the Vita controls, but just...bleh.

                    Any help?

                    Sometimes I've lead off, without having the intention of stealing, and they don't throw over. So, I can't say that they will always throw over, however this is still an issue. My advice, obtain a rabbit's foot and store it in your pocket and hope they don't throw over if you leading off (with the intention of stealing) because they will get you.

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                    • kehlis
                      Moderator
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 27738

                      #25
                      Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

                      Originally posted by jaysfan17
                      Yesterday I was playing against the Red Sox and Ortiz singled. I notice he was rated zero in all running categories so I went to pick him off and he got back without a slide. Weird right? The strange part was he had a bigger lead than he takes in real life.
                      No, not weird at all.

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                      • ManiacMatt1782
                        Who? Giroux!
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 3982

                        #26
                        Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

                        In standard gameplay, I never take an extra step. It just telegraphs your intentions. I also try not to run in a fastball count if I am trying a straight steal. Hit and run you want to be a fastball count. But lets stick with the straight steal. With no added lead, i use the early steal function by holding L2. But I won't let go until I see movement. It will be extremely rare to see a pick off in these situations. This way I can get the best possible jump that I can control. Just tapping L2 gives you random bad jumps even with great basestealers. With the early steal method, you only get a bad jump if your timing is off.
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                        • ManiacMatt1782
                          Who? Giroux!
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3982

                          #27
                          Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

                          I use tap L2 for hit and run only. The jump is just too unreliable.
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                          • cusefan74
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 2408

                            #28
                            Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

                            Originally posted by extremeskins04
                            But we used to be able to steal with players with 50-70 speed. At least when this game released. It seems like players run slower now and the baserunning speed sliders are at default. Sometimes I can't even steal with guys with 80 speed and 70 stealing.

                            So you're not happy because slow guys can't steal?

                            If the guys speed is in the 50's I'm not even thinking of stealing, and I run a lot because I love to steal bases.

                            If their rating is in the 60's I'm looking at it, but the conditions have to be in my favor. Who is pitching? Does he throw a lot of curveballs? How fast is his move to home with the pitch? What is the count to the hitter? Who's the catcher? If I'm playing the Cardinals and Molina is behind the plate, I'm not going to try and steal with a guy below an 80 rating.

                            So like other guys have said, there are a lot of factors in stealing success. You can't just steal with anybody at anytime.

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                            • extremeskins04
                              That's top class!
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 3868

                              #29
                              Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

                              Originally posted by cusefan74
                              So you're not happy because slow guys can't steal?

                              If the guys speed is in the 50's I'm not even thinking of stealing, and I run a lot because I love to steal bases.

                              If their rating is in the 60's I'm looking at it, but the conditions have to be in my favor. Who is pitching? Does he throw a lot of curveballs? How fast is his move to home with the pitch? What is the count to the hitter? Who's the catcher? If I'm playing the Cardinals and Molina is behind the plate, I'm not going to try and steal with a guy below an 80 rating.

                              So like other guys have said, there are a lot of factors in stealing success. You can't just steal with anybody at anytime.
                              I'm not happy because Mookie Betts is getting caught stealing 5 out of 6 attempts but I've seen the CPU successfully steal with much slower guys.

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                              • kehlis
                                Moderator
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 27738

                                #30
                                Re: Anyone had luck stealing bags?

                                Originally posted by extremeskins04
                                I'm not happy because Mookie Betts is getting caught stealing 5 out of 6 attempts but I've seen the CPU successfully steal with much slower guys.

                                Could that have anything to do with your catcher?

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