Defensive A.I. in this game is atrocious

[Dylonus]

I can't stress this enough. It's on a completely different level of awful.

I've played a handful of games so far and it's mind-blowing how stupid your fielders are.

I'll be standing inside the baseball graph when catching a fly ball and they just lose track of the ball.

I'll run to a ball to stop it frmo getting into the gap and they don't even attempt to grab the ball to stop it.

I've had times where I go for a double play AND THE FIRST BASEMAN HASN'T EVEN MOVED FROM HIS ORIGINAL SPOT AND ISN'T ON THE BAG!

I hope this is patched. It's dreadful. I'm extremely disappointed with these issues.

[canes21]

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Have had none of those issues except for trying to turn a 3-2-3 or 3-6-3 double play. The game seems to force the pitcher to cover the 2nd out.

The first two issues just sound like you are not used to the fielding in this year's edition yet. The only time my guys miss fly balls is when I am off on my placement.

And when tracking a ball in the gap, I've never seeen them not go for it unless I was not within reach of the ball.

[Dylonus]

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Have had none of those issues except for trying to turn a 3-2-3 or 3-6-3 double play. The game seems to force the pitcher to cover the 2nd out.

The first two issues just sound like you are not used to the fielding in this year's edition yet. The only time my guys miss fly balls is when I am off on my placement.

And when tracking a ball in the gap, I've never seeen them not go for it unless I was not within reach of the ball.

That's the issue. First baseman just sit there expecting the pitcher to cover. There's absolutely no reason for that. Especially on a 6-4-3 or a 5-4-3 double play when balls are hit towards second.

As for fielding, I run back BEHIND the graph first, then move forward into the ball (like a normal fielder should) and they'll either lose track or it or just ignore it.

[canes21]

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I only see it on a double play started by the firstbasemen. Any other types have always had him cover it.

As for the other issue, it sounds like you are moving to the balls location too late causing the "lost" animation or no animation at all.

[dran1984]

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That's the issue. First baseman just sit there expecting the pitcher to cover. There's absolutely no reason for that. Especially on a 6-4-3 or a 5-4-3 double play when balls are hit towards second.

As for fielding, I run back BEHIND the graph first, then move forward into the ball (like a normal fielder should) and they'll either lose track or it or just ignore it.

That's because that's how the play is taught and practiced. The pitcher is supposed to cover the bag on double plays when the first basemen fields the ball.

As for the 6-4-3 and the 5-4-3 I haven't seen any issues at all. The first basemen is always where he should be.

The one issue I have with the fielding is that in trying to make the players more "human" they cause them to miss too many balls and make to many offline throws. That needs toned down a little more.

[authentic]

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I've never really had any of the issues stated above happen. The only real issues I have with defensive AI is positioning and the occasional fielding animation that won't allow you to make a play on the ball. For example, grounders in between the 1st and 2nd baseman. If I don't dive then I get the animation where my fielder reaches ever so slightly and the ball is 3 feet away from him. If I dive, then I dive way past the ball. Positioning wise, I still feel like outfielders are way too close to the infield in most cases.

Those are the only two things I've really noticed, but they're things that have been a problem in this game for a long time and are still there.

[Dylonus]

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I've never really had any of the issues stated above happen. The only real issues I have with defensive AI is positioning and the occasional fielding animation that won't allow you to make a play on the ball. For example, grounders in between the 1st and 2nd baseman. If I don't dive then I get the animation where my fielder reaches ever so slightly and the ball is 3 feet away from him. If I dive, then I dive way past the ball. Positioning wise, I still feel like outfielders are way too close to the infield in most cases.

I've noticed this as well. I wouldn't mind seeing that with minor league players; but not in the MLB...

[Orion2012]

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That's because that's how the play is taught and practiced. The pitcher is supposed to cover the bag on double plays when the first basemen fields the ball.

As for the 6-4-3 and the 5-4-3 I haven't seen any issues at all. The first basemen is always where he should be.

The one issue I have with the fielding is that in trying to make the players more "human" they cause them to miss too many balls and make to many offline throws. That needs toned down a little more.

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[kehlis]

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That's because that's how the play is taught and practiced. The pitcher is supposed to cover the bag on double plays when the first basemen fields the ball.

No that's not at all how it's taught or coached.

The preferable play is always that the first baseman gets back. The only time the pitcher should cover that is if the first baseman has to go to his right to field the ball.

[authentic]

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No that's not at all how it's taught or coached.

The preferable play is always that the first baseman gets back. The only time the pitcher should cover that is if the first baseman has to go to his right to field the ball.

Yeah, the only way the pitcher takes 1st is if the 1st baseman can't get back in time. This rarely happens since the 1st baseman is usually holding the runner on. Any ground ball that's that far from first is a hit.

[dran1984]

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No that's not at all how it's taught or coached.

The preferable play is always that the first baseman gets back. The only time the pitcher should cover that is if the first baseman has to go to his right to field the ball.

I watch multiple MLB games nightly and most often you will see the pitcher cover on a ball hit at the first basemen.

[Spokker]

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Most of the time the bugs are spread over multiple games, but when you have one game where all the bugs come together, it really sucks.

Just had one where I threw to third and the CPU ignored the stop sign and ran home. My third baseman just froze. I couldn't throw to home and he was stuck like that.

And now my pitcher is out for a month after being hit, lol. I hit the CPU pitchers all the time and they don't get injured! Then the next batter hit a home run off my reliever, who threw a perfectly timed pitch outside the strike zone, haha.

When this game wants you to lose, it really tries!

[kehlis]

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I watch multiple MLB games nightly and most often you will see the pitcher cover on a ball hit at the first basemen.

I can assure you that my pedigree extends past "watching multiple MLB games nightly."

Pitchers are well versed in the need to cover first should it be necessary. We would run drill after drill practicing it. But the expectation and preferable method is to have the 1b get back.

It's a bad angle for the pitcher to have to get to first base versus the first baseman getting back.

[dran1984]

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I can assure you that my pedigree extends past "watching multiple MLB games nightly."

Pitchers are well versed in the need to cover first should it be necessary. We would run drill after drill practicing it. But the expectation and preferable method is to have the 1b get back.

It's a bad angle for the pitcher to have to get to first base versus the first baseman getting back.

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In plays like shown above the first basemen has no chance at getting back to receive the throw

[jada855]

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After watching the video posted in this thread it is clear they needed more time to work on this game! We will receive a series of patches that will be marketed by Ramone Rusell saying it fixes issues only to find out on a twitch stream in 2016 that they truly fixed the issue in the upcoming game version of MLB 2016 and now it's a feature!

To be honest when I saw the supposed outfielder adjustment I thought to myself I had to wait until 2015 to get this. No Sony SD is starting to play its customers!

I edited a Dodgers roster so that everyone has a 99 rating! After testing several game playing all 9 innings. It's pretty clear that RTTS mode wants you to carry the entire team shame on you Sony SD and your marketing department!