Question For Those Who Uses Broadcast Camera Angles For Both Pitching And Batting.

[UWfan206]

I might be in the minority but I use broadcast camera angles for both pitching and batting just for realism. It just looks better to me.

Also I would like to add three questions regarding camera angles. I'm a newbie to this series so bare with me.

Question 1: If I do zone hitting for broadcast do I push the stick down or up to push it forward?

Question 2: What pitching and batting settings/sliders works best for broadcast?

Question 3: I want it to look like what I see on TV as much as possible. Does any one have some custom camera settings they want to share?

Thx in advanced.

[CujoMatty]

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I use these as well because I want it to look like a tv broadcast. I use analog zone for hitting. You press up on the stick for contact swing and down then up for power just as you would for behind the batter.

As far as settings I suggest messing around with them and figure out what works. I use zone analog for hitting and meter pitching. I turn off all overlays other than the scoreboard and ticke to really simulate a broadcast. I don't even use the pitch select overlays. I check the pitches when I first bring in the pitcher by hitting right on the directional buttons.
The only crappy thing is you can basically cheat using broadcast view while hitting. the catcher tips off the location when he gives the signal. Also the pitchers grip when he holds the ball in his hand in the glove tells you what pitch he's going to throw. I really have to discipline myself to not look.

[tinpanalley]

Re: Question For Those Who Uses Broadcast Camera Angles For Both Pitching And Batting

As a person that loves using Broadcast view throughout the game (and all my sports games), I thought I'd share what I know. If you really study what the standards are for views in sports games it's really interesting that much of what decides default is the development of different sports games through the history of sports gaming. ALL Football games were left to right sideline view until Madden came along. To me, sideline view always made more sense and I still play that way. Same for NHL. A lot of people say the regular 3/4 view is better but that is often without really, objectively testing broadcast view. We tend to like, as members of any community, what the majority like because there's comfort there. It's encoded into our DNA and our survival instinct. Just look at all the slider talk and people deciding that one set is "better" than another which is actually kind of impossible because the game plays differently in every single player's hands holding a controller. So, play your way and stick to what you like. I'm like you, I don't wanna feel like I'm on the field, that it's me out there pretending to be my favourite player. I want it to look like I'm watching the game on TV. Anyway, onto your questions...

Question 1: If I do zone hitting for broadcast do I push the stick down or up to push it forward?

Up is up and down is down. That never changes. The only time that can be somewhat reversed is if you play RTTS and decide to flip the buttons upside-down for the infield if pressing X to throw home feels weird to you because your perspective is from the outfield. But to push what forward? I don't understand what you're trying to do? Surely, every swing pushes the bat or ball forward?

Question 2: What pitching and batting settings/sliders works best for broadcast?

The same settings and sliders that work for ANY camera view: the one that you play best with. Sliders are dependant on the person playing with them to be or not be effective. Play the game, and keep tweaking as you go to achieve the realism level you want and need. Play a game, runners too fast? Turn them down. Outfielders throw too perfectly? Turn that down. If you don't know a sport well and want to get this down quickly, look at real stats during the season on sports sites and compare roughly what you're getting vs what real life does keeping in mind that your skill level has a lot to do with it.

Question 3: I want it to look like what I see on TV as much as possible. Does any one have some custom camera settings they want to share?

Unless you want to tweak the cameras every time you go to a new stadium, just set the camera to Broadcast and they've already programmed the stadiums to use the proper behind the pitcher angle (or close to it) in every park.

[UWfan206]

Re: Question For Those Who Uses Broadcast Camera Angles For Both Pitching And Batting

The only crappy thing is you can basically cheat using broadcast view while hitting. the catcher tips off the location when he gives the signal. Also the pitchers grip when he holds the ball in his hand in the glove tells you what pitch he's going to throw. I really have to discipline myself to not look.

Can you specify what to look for from the catcher because my batting sucks even on the easiest settings/sliders I can't even read the the pitches coming.

[UWfan206]

Re: Question For Those Who Uses Broadcast Camera Angles For Both Pitching And Batting

As a person that loves using Broadcast view throughout the game (and all my sports games), I thought I'd share what I know. If you really study what the standards are for views in sports games it's really interesting that much of what decides default is the development of different sports games through the history of sports gaming. ALL Football games were left to right sideline view until Madden came along. To me, sideline view always made more sense and I still play that way. Same for NHL. A lot of people say the regular 3/4 view is better but that is often without really, objectively testing broadcast view. We tend to like, as members of any community, what the majority like because there's comfort there. It's encoded into our DNA and our survival instinct. Just look at all the slider talk and people deciding that one set is "better" than another which is actually kind of impossible because the game plays differently in every single player's hands holding a controller. So, play your way and stick to what you like. I'm like you, I don't wanna feel like I'm on the field, that it's me out there pretending to be my favourite player. I want it to look like I'm watching the game on TV. Anyway, onto your questions...
Up is up and down is down. That never changes. The only time that can be somewhat reversed is if you play RTTS and decide to flip the buttons upside-down for the infield if pressing X to throw home feels weird to you because your perspective is from the outfield. But to push what forward? I don't understand what you're trying to do? Surely, every swing pushes the bat or ball forward?
The same settings and sliders that work for ANY camera view: the one that you play best with. Sliders are dependant on the person playing with them to be or not be effective. Play the game, and keep tweaking as you go to achieve the realism level you want and need. Play a game, runners too fast? Turn them down. Outfielders throw too perfectly? Turn that down. If you don't know a sport well and want to get this down quickly, look at real stats during the season on sports sites and compare roughly what you're getting vs what real life does keeping in mind that your skill level has a lot to do with it.
Unless you want to tweak the cameras every time you go to a new stadium, just set the camera to Broadcast and they've already programmed the stadiums to use the proper behind the pitcher angle (or close to it) in every park.

What I mean by up and down is would I have to aim it the opposite way of how I would on the batting view?

[tinpanalley]

Re: Question For Those Who Uses Broadcast Camera Angles For Both Pitching And Batting

What I mean by up and down is would I have to aim it the opposite way of how I would on the batting view?

Well, to push the ball (meaning to hit it opposite the side you bat from), if that's what you mean, you point it to the opposite field of the batter's stance. If by push the ball you mean hit it forward, that action is done by swinging the bat not by choosing any kind of direction. Up and down would have nothing to do with pushing or hitting the ball no matter what view you play from. Does that make sense? If not, then I'm totally confused.

[UWfan206]

Re: Question For Those Who Uses Broadcast Camera Angles For Both Pitching And Batting

Well, to push the ball (meaning to hit it opposite the side you bat from), if that's what you mean, you point it to the opposite field of the batter's stance. If by push the ball you mean hit it forward, that action is done by swinging the bat not by choosing any kind of direction. Up and down would have nothing to do with pushing or hitting the ball no matter what view you play from. Does that make sense? If not, then I'm totally confused.

Ok if I want to hit it towards left field or hit the ball towards the left side how would I do it with the sticks on broadcast camera? Is it the same as catcher view for batting? I'm asking this because I know on RTTS they flip flop the buttons around where throwing to first is square and throwing to third is circle instead of the other way around so I want to know if this is also the case where they flip flop it around in broadcast camera in terms of batting in terms of batting.

[Gooter]

Re: Question For Those Who Uses Broadcast Camera Angles For Both Pitching And Batting

Ok if I want to hit it towards left field or hit the ball towards the left side how would I do it with the sticks on broadcast camera? Is it the same as catcher view for batting? I'm asking this because I know on RTTS they flip flop the buttons around where throwing to first is square and throwing to third is circle instead of the other way around so I want to know if this is also the case where they flip flop it around in broadcast camera in terms of batting in terms of batting.

As the other poster said, the batting controls don't change no matter what camera angle you have set. Think of it as looking at the pitcher from home plate. If a right handed batter is up, push the stick right to influence the ball to go to the right, push left to influence left. When in Broadcast view, again with a right hander at the plate, pushing stick right, influences right and left influences left.At least that's how I understand it.

[CujoMatty]

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Can you specify what to look for from the catcher because my batting sucks even on the easiest settings/sliders I can't even read the the pitches coming.

the catcher will throw signs up then either leave his hand in the middle or swipe his hand off his left or right knee. If he leaves it in the middle the pitch is coming down the middle. If he swipes left it's going left. Swipes right going right. The initial signs where he holds down fingers mean nothing as far as I can tell.

As for the pitchers grip. Two fingers slightly apart is a fast ball. Two fingers far apart is a splitter. Two fingers together is either a slider or curveball. If the pitcher has what looks like 3 or 4 fingers on the ball it's a change up.

[brrmikey]

Re: Question For Those Who Uses Broadcast Camera Angles For Both Pitching And Batting

i use broadcast for offense/defense as well. sometimes for hitting, a given team's broadcast camera angle can be impossible to hit from. i've picked my favorite camera angle and saved it for one of the custom angles and it's there every game...LAA view is best for me and i can hit well lefty and righty.

have you also tried:
- classic pitching with no help icons and no pitch marker (vibration only)...awesome
- auto fielding / manual throwing (removes blue player indicator icon while keeping some fun in fielding)...i use analog throwing, no meter as well...broadcast view of course
- i used to use zone+analog (cursor-less) and stride, but have gotten used to the missing stride...game is stellar, so i'm pretty much over it
-all star batting level with pitch speed 5 works well for me..thinking of going to HOF...it's a bit easy (even with purposely ignoring the cpu catcher signs / cpu pitcher ball grip)

[tinpanalley]

Re: Question For Those Who Uses Broadcast Camera Angles For Both Pitching And Batting

Look here's the deal with directions for hitting...

You're in broadcast. You have a pitcher in the foreground and your batter's in the background.
No matter whether the batter bats left or right...
- If you hold left while swinging you're trying to aim towards the left of the screen (RF).
- If you hold right while swinging you're trying to aim towards the right of the screen (LF).

This is all however dependant on where the pitch is and your timing. I won't go into the physics of every possible location, movement, and timing situation when bat meets ball but those are things you can get from just studying baseball in general, not just this game. But you see, this is why I said up and down have nothing to do with it even with the screen reversed. You're the batter, so up and down would never be reversed. Besides what would up even be? To hit a shallow ball? There's no control for that. Direction of your hit and intended power of the hit, that's all you get to control in most baseball games.

Does that make a bit more sense?

[cardinalbird5]

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Just to clarify....you don't use broadcast camera for realism....but you use it for presentation right? Nothing realistic about batting behind the pitcher?

[UWfan206]

Re: Question For Those Who Uses Broadcast Camera Angles For Both Pitching And Batting

Just to clarify....you don't use broadcast camera for realism....but you use it for presentation right? Nothing realistic about batting behind the pitcher?

Well since you put it that way you are correct. You know what I mean. lol

[CujoMatty]

Re: Question For Those Who Uses Broadcast Camera Angles For Both Pitching And Batting

i use broadcast for offense/defense as well. sometimes for hitting, a given team's broadcast camera angle can be impossible to hit from. i've picked my favorite camera angle and saved it for one of the custom angles and it's there every game...LAA view is best for me and i can hit well lefty and righty.

have you also tried:
- classic pitching with no help icons and no pitch marker (vibration only)...awesome
- auto fielding / manual throwing (removes blue player indicator icon while keeping some fun in fielding)...i use analog throwing, no meter as well...broadcast view of course
- i used to use zone+analog (cursor-less) and stride, but have gotten used to the missing stride...game is stellar, so i'm pretty much over it
-all star batting level with pitch speed 5 works well for me..thinking of going to HOF...it's a bit easy (even with purposely ignoring the cpu catcher signs / cpu pitcher ball grip)

we think alike. The only thing is auto fielding I can't do. I like the idea of not having the player icon though. I wish that was an option To turn off. I used a no icon mod for mvp 05 for pc and love not having stupid graphics all over the screen. I also wish they would change the ball landing marker to something smaller and mostly transparent. That big white ball suuuuccckkks. I tried playing without it and just following the shadow bit it was near impossible.

[cardinalbird5]

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Well since you put it that way you are correct. You know what I mean. lol

Just checking lol. I use E. Catcher zoom and I get a lot of hate for it, but to me it is the most realistic camera to use (from the defaults to choose from). Yeah I don't think I could hit from broadcast....