The R.A. Dickey Dilemma

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Has anyone else pitched with or played against Dickey in the game and all his knuckler does is land for strikes? Playing against him he had every knuckle hit the strike zone. So I checked his ratings and saw he had a very high control to the pitch. I tried to lower his control for it drastically because you can never really control a knuckleball but still the problem exists.

Anyone else come across this? And if so is there any fix?

[nomo17k]

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I agree with your observation, and it's been this way for as long as I remember. In CPU vs. CPU games, Dickey tends to have usually high strike % and rarely walks hitters.

I think CPU tends to aim all knucklers within the strike zone, and the pitch isn't inaccurate enough to miss it. It needs to be made a lot wilder to be realistic.

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Re: The R.A. Dickey Dilemma

I agree with your observation, and it's been this way for as long as I remember. In CPU vs. CPU games, Dickey tends to have usually high strike % and rarely walks hitters.

I think CPU tends to aim all knucklers within the strike zone, and the pitch isn't inaccurate enough to miss it. It needs to be made a lot wilder to be realistic.

Thankfully I'm not the only one lol. I lowered the control for the pitch all the way to 0 to no avail. Maybe doing that with also lower his Walk rating will help fix it.

[nomo17k]

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Thankfully I'm not the only one lol. I lowered the control for the pitch all the way to 0 to no avail. Maybe doing that with also lower his Walk rating will help fix it.

I think for a pitch like knuckler Pitcher Consistency would be a better slider to adjust. The consistency in locating knuckler within the strike zone is the issue, so you just want to lower that when Dickey pitches. I think Pitcher Control doesn't have as much of an effect in inducing Dickey to walk hitters.

[GermanYankee]

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Same Problem here you can Swing on eher pitch because it is in the strike Zone lowering consistency and move Up control helped me but i rarely can Hit this guy But when it is a homerun

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I think for a pitch like knuckler Pitcher Consistency would be a better slider to adjust. The consistency in locating knuckler within the strike zone is the issue, so you just want to lower that when Dickey pitches. I think Pitcher Control doesn't have as much of an effect in inducing Dickey to walk hitters.

You're right on the consistency thing Nomo. I was referring to his actual control ratings when I edited him. That didn't seem to do anything. As of right now if he's ever pitching I'll just try and lower the consistency slider and see how it plays out.

[bcruise]

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Interestingly, Dickey seems to be immune to the otherwise-powerful effect of the CPU strike frequency slider - zeroing it will still result him throwing a ton of early-count knuckle-strikes. That means the CPU's pitching strategy really isn't changing much with it zeroed.

Lowering Consistency and/or Control sliders does seem to be the only recourse. I'm playing around with this a bit after reading this thread.

Although it's old - back from his time with he Mets, here's a bit about how often he can throw it for strikes (after the first gif):

http://www.sbnation.com/2012/6/19/3096049/ra-dickey-stats-knuckleball-mets

If anyone has more recent data feel free to share - I'm not really sure where to look beyond a google search.

[BeatArmy]

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The knuckler never misses. My RTTS player on the Vita (for when I forget to cloud my save) routinely puts 95% inthe zone. The knuckler needs nerfing badly.

[COMMISSIONERHBK9]

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I'm the Yankees in franchise and my first game is against him and I hate that guy. I said this in another thread he is my worst nightmare. For the past I five plus years he is giving me trouble

[Maverick09]

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I play with Dickey in my Blue Jays franchise.

The problem with him is, when using the recommend pitch feature, 90% of the time the catcher will recommend throwing a knuckle ball right down the middle. Not sure if it's a glitch, but this is definitely the reason for the high strike%.

It's as if the pitch (knuckle ball) is not programmed to be thrown for balls. The catcher always asks for it to be thrown down the middle.

[redsox4evur]

Re: The R.A. Dickey Dilemma

I play with Dickey in my Blue Jays franchise.

The problem with him is, when using the recommend pitch feature, 90% of the time the catcher will recommend throwing a knuckle ball right down the middle. Not sure if it's a glitch, but this is definitely the reason for the high strike%.

It's as if the pitch (knuckle ball) is not programmed to be thrown for balls. The catcher always asks for it to be thrown down the middle.

It's probably not a glitch. Because the knuckle has a random movement to it. If you throw it down the middle there is a higher chance of you actually landing it in there for a strike.

[Aensland]

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Noticed this a couple nights ago in a CPU vs. CPU game where Dickey at one point threw only 8 balls to 60+ strikes against the Yankees. The batters look overmatched in the first five innings, before hitting back to back home runs in the 6th.

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It's probably not a glitch. Because the knuckle has a random movement to it. If you throw it down the middle there is a higher chance of you actually landing it in there for a strike.

It's a glitch to me if the knuckle goes for 95 percent strikes. It's impossible for me to play against him.

[HouseKeepinItReal]

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if you are hitting against him than you need to crush his strikes. I would suggest regular swings only against dickey. get runners on base, lay down a bunt.

if you are pitching with him and can't seem to throw a ball and you are getting away with 95% strikes than it is likely a difficulty issue.

one of the show's minor flaws(imo) is the higher difficulties produce better results but not everyone graduates as quickly as others, and while i notice a lot of baseball veterans play this game, they aren't really any good but because of their extensive knowledge of baseball it creates a disparity between what they experience and what they see IRL.

[roolz]

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Im using him so far, its OK... the Orioles just shelled me a bit though in his 2nd start.