Not enough errors??

[DarthRambo]

I am currently at May 8th in my franchise playing with the Indians and Cubs and got to thinking about the lack of fielding errors...especially for the Indians who are one of the worst defenses in baseball. So I decided to look at the real life team stats for errors and fielding% and compare to MLBTS.

I found there just simply aren't near enough and its really not even close. In my franchise the Nationals only have 6 errors (.994%) in 29 games played. The worst team is the Mets with only 20 errors (.981%).

IRL the best fielding team, the Marlins with 11 errors (.991%) in 35 games played. The worst team is the Athletics with 36 errors (.973%). The league average is 21 errors currently with 30-36 games played.

I simmed to be at the same date as real life and the Nationals now have 7 errors and the Mets have 25.

I then simmed ahead until I saw the errors up to where they currently are IRL. I had to sim to June 1st before the numbers were even close, but even then the team fielding% as a whole is way too high.

The Nationals only have 11 errors (.994%). Mets have 45 (.976%). IRL team fielding% top 5 leaders are:

Marlins(t 1st)- .991
D-Backs(t 1st)- .991
Rays(t 1st)- .991
Tigers(2nd)- .989
Reds (t 3rd)- .987
Dodgers (t 3rd)- .987
Red Sox (t 3rd)- .987
Braves (4th)- .986
Rockies (t 5th)- .984
Angels (t 5th)- .984

In the game as of June 1st when the amount of errors were similar to real life as of May 14th, the top 5 are:

Nationals (1st)- .994
Orioles (2nd)- .991
Angels (t 3rd)- .990
Royals (t 3rd)- .990
Cardinals (t 3rd)- .990
Red Sox (t 4th)- .989
Dodgers (t 4th)- .989
Cubs (t 5th)- .988
Phillies (t 5th)- .988
Pirates (t 5th)- .988

Take it for what you will but it is clear from this there just aren't enough fielding errors in the game. Remember...I had to sim to June 1st to even get that close to real life which is mid May.

The game is great but it's something like this that can easily throw off a lot of other stats. Giving teams, especially good teams extra outs is usually very costly. Just hope this can be explored for next year.

[DavidPuddy]

Re: Not enough errors??

are you actually playing the game or just simming? I can tell you that playing the game, there is too many errors in my opinion

[HozAndMoose]

Re: Not enough errors??

Yes playing there are way to many errors with default sliders Infield and outfield down to 3 seems good.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Not enough errors??

Well I play with the Cubs and Indians. Currently have played a good majority of their games, I'm only at May 8th so def haven't simmed many. But no, of course I sim all cpu vs cpu games. I don't play with the Nats or Mets.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Not enough errors??

As of now I only have 9 errors with the Cubs (.991). And only 11 errors with the Indians (.989). Both are too low when compared to real life numbers as of today.

[HustlinOwl]

Re: Not enough errors??

what difficulty is your fielding/throwing set to?

[DarthRambo]

Re: Not enough errors??

And while I agree that there are far too many throwing errors in games played, I do not see near enough fielding errors by me or the cpu in games played. I have fielding errors at default and throwing errors at 3 for infield and 1 for OF.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Not enough errors??

what difficulty is your fielding/throwing set to?

I play with auto fielding, manual throw with the throwing meter turned off. With it turned off it locks the throw difficulty so I don't think that matters does it?

I'm talking more of not enough actual fielding errors, not throwing errors though.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Not enough errors??

Okay edit...I raised all error sliders to max and saw a small increase. Now after ssimming to June 1st the Nats still lead with only 14 errors (up from 11). And the Red Sox fell off and jumped way up to 35 errors in last. Idk what to make of that. Would have to start a new franchise with those settings and sim to compare.

[DarthRambo]

Re: Not enough errors??

So after playing and paying closer attention to fielding errors I noticed the game doesn't count errors as errors in the box scores. Three times I saw obvious errors and they were not counted as such. One of those times the announcer even said an error lol.

I'm wondering if this is occurring during simmed games? No way to know for sure but it definitely is happening in games played. I don't expect this to be fixed this year but it's one of thise little things this game usually gets right but it's not working properly at the moment. Hopefully they can at least look into it for next year. Is causing higher ERA than there should be

[mvp_status]

Re: Not enough errors??

are you actually playing the game or just simming? I can tell you that playing the game, there is too many errors in my opinion

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last thing we need is developers seeing this thread & tuning errors to be even more frequent than they already are lol

[DarthRambo]

Re: Not enough errors??

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last thing we need is developers seeing this thread & tuning errors to be even more frequent than they already are lol

I think the amount is okay. After paying closer attention to it I believe the problem is more the game is not actually counting errors as errors sometimes. Like I mentioned, I saw three errors in the last game I played and none were counted as an error in the box score.

[rjackson]

Re: Not enough errors??

Nomo has done extensive stuff on this kind of stuff. To get the most realistic stats as far as errors are concerned, maybe use his settings for fielding & throwing errors. You can leave the rest of the sliders how you want but you'll get realistic numbers when playing with his fielding settings. Simming, you might just have to give it more time to even out over the long run. Nothing you can do about that.

[duc748s]

Re: Not enough errors??

I think the amount is okay. After paying closer attention to it I believe the problem is more the game is not actually counting errors as errors sometimes. Like I mentioned, I saw three errors in the last game I played and none were counted as an error in the box score.

Just to let you know, I see this issue in RttS as a pitcher. I have noticed a number of errors that are not being counted as errors and charging runs as earned to the pitcher......