Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

[JohnMcClaneTW]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

You can argue with these guys all you want and question their skill, but there's no denying there seems to be some precedent here with broken bats.

[bfindeisen]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

Because people in this game don't adjust. They want it easy and would rather call cheese or glitch instead of accepting their just getting beat. I don't break my bat too much. What can I tell you? I'm not going to argue with you, just disagree.

[JohnMcClaneTW]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

Timing is just one component of a swing.

That means the bat met the ball at a good spot in the hitting zone.

What PART of the bat got hit depends on the swing plane as well. If I swing away but the pitch is in, even if my timing is good (say I reacted well) but didn't adjust my swing plane, I'm going to hit below the label and that's asking for a broken bat.

I have only seen it once when I did it, but I swear to you it was Good timing with the PCI dead center on the high and inside pitch. Broken bat. Haven't seen it before or since but I was pretty stunned that it happened there.

[bfindeisen]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

...and in the threads you posted, it seems to be a couple ppl complaining, and most agreeing with me. And the people complaining seem to not understand basic baseball concepts. From one of those threads:

"I have noticed a large number of broken bats, especially when either myself or my opponent are late on inside pitches."

Yeah, no kidding, pal. LOL That's why bats break.

[bfindeisen]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

I have only seen it once when I did it, but I swear to you it was Good timing with the PCI dead center on the high and inside pitch. Broken bat. Haven't seen it before or since but I was pretty stunned that it happened there.

Hmmm...maybe it was ratings related. Like when you center up a ball perfectly and time it perfectly but it just goes for a pop out or fly out. Timing and centering the PCI doesn't guarantee success, otherwise good players would dominate this game.

[JohnMcClaneTW]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

Not calling a you a liar by any means, but I have yet to see this extreme broken bat problem. If you time it perfectly, but don't zone up the PCI right, you're going to break your bat. You have to get your hands through, (i.e. get the PCI high and tight). I have never broken a bat when the PCI was aligned correctly (and timing was adequate). Sounds like you're getting caught center swinging a lot...

Not a center swinger at all. I don't have a god-like batting average at .275 but I'm 47-11 in a good amount of online franchise games with some DD and Online Rated mixed in. If anything I notice my opponents bats breaking a lot when I pitch to them.

I don't watch every game of every team each season but as a White Sox fan I don't notice bats shattering all that often at all. I wonder if there's a stat we can look up to see how often it happens in MLB as a whole - as in how many broken bats per game.

[bfindeisen]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

I don't know if that's a stat, but someone mentioned it in one of those threads...but it's purely anecdotal. But I do think you'll find a lot more bats break per game than you realize.

I've played about 120 games or so, and IMO, this isn't an issue. Last night I played 6 games and there were maybe 4-5 broken bats. Totally reasonable. Btw, what difficulty setting do you play on??? That could be why...if you're playing on a higher difficulty with faster pitches with more movement + smaller PCI.

[JohnMcClaneTW]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

Hmmm...maybe it was ratings related. Like when you center up a ball perfectly and time it perfectly but it just goes for a pop out or fly out. Timing and centering the PCI doesn't guarantee success, otherwise good players would dominate this game.

The good players DO dominate this game. I'm in a league with cardinalbird5. That dude hits EVERYTHING. I'm not even close to being as capable at the plate as he is.

[bfindeisen]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

The good players DO dominate this game. I'm in a league with cardinalbird5. That dude hits EVERYTHING. I'm not even close to being as capable at the plate as he is.

Well, he is ranked number 1 I believe...fortunately, I haven't had to play him.

[JohnMcClaneTW]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

I don't know if that's a stat, but someone mentioned it in one of those threads...but it's purely anecdotal. But I do think you'll find a lot more bats break per game than you realize.

I've played about 120 games or so, and IMO, this isn't an issue. Last night I played 6 games and there were maybe 4-5 broken bats. Totally reasonable. Btw, what difficulty setting do you play on??? That could be why...if you're playing on a higher difficulty with faster pitches with more movement + smaller PCI.

Hall of Fame or Legend as much as possible. Mostly Hall of Fame this year in online franchise. My offline chise is on Legend, though.

[bfindeisen]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

Hall of Fame or Legend as much as possible. Mostly Hall of Fame this year in online franchise. My offline chise is on Legend, though.

OH, well that's exactly why we're seeing things differently. I play on All-Star with a bigger PCI and slighly slower pitching. Much easier to hit those inside pitches. I can't muster the courage to even try HOF based on the games I've been playing where it's hard enough for some teams to not strikeout 15 times...

[JohnMcClaneTW]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

It's funny because this is indeed a great game but I have to say some of the stuff said in that change ups thread is correct as well. Change up are not unhittable at all, but SCEA has declined to get the correct change up speed on some pitchers.

One example would be Tyler Matzek if I remember. I seem to recall him throwing like 95 in game with a 78 MPH change. If SCEA would just go to fangraphs for each pitcher and check out their average velocity, they'd see that in reality, his average change speed is 87. I might be wrong about this since I'm at work right now, but I can check in game later when I'm home.

I wish they'd dedicate an employee to doing that. Just get the pitches and pitch speeds right. The information is right there for them on fangraphs, for free, but they don't seem to utilize it. Kind of like when Tanaka had that change before they patched it away. Things are much more accurate now with him.

[bfindeisen]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

It's funny because this is indeed a great game but I have to say some of the stuff said in that change ups thread is correct as well. Change up are not unhittable at all, but SCEA has declined to get the correct change up speed on some pitchers.

One example would be Tyler Matzek if I remember. I seem to recall him throwing like 95 in game with a 78 MPH change. If SCEA would just go to fangraphs for each pitcher and check out their average velocity, they'd see that in reality, his average change speed is 87.

I wish they'd dedicate an employee to doing that. Just get the pitches and pitch speeds right. The information is right there for them on fangraphs, for free, but they don't seem to utilize it.

Totally agree about the changeups. I think there is just too wide a gap on many pitchers' Fastball-Changeup. It makes it even harder than what Pros have to deal with.

[bfindeisen]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

I wish they'd dedicate an employee to doing that. Just get the pitches and pitch speeds right. The information is right there for them on fangraphs, for free, but they don't seem to utilize it.

Oh I know! It frustrates me to no end there isn't someone who's job it is to keep the pitches and equipment accurate for every player throughout the season. It wouldn't even be that hard if you were actually getting paid to do it.

[JohnMcClaneTW]

Re: Please get rid of the unhittable pitch

I'm derailing the thread with those comments but the point is that nomo gave the best advice. You really do have to sit on same handed high inside fastballs. There's simply not enough time to react to that unless you are superhuman or maybe under the age of 30, which I am not.