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  • vidgames
    Rookie
    • Apr 2014
    • 298

    #1

    Veteran level no shananagians

    So we all know all star difficulty and above gives the cpu and user increased percentages of late game heroics. What are the findings on veteran difficulty?
  • bscbears99
    Rookie
    • Aug 2009
    • 229

    #2
    Re: Veteran level no shananagians

    Originally posted by vidgames
    So we all know all star difficulty and above gives the cpu and user increased percentages of late game heroics. What are the findings on veteran difficulty?
    Not that I believe in the all-star and above stuff (lets not turn this into a there is too....there is not....argument) I played on All Star and now back at veteran+ (i used dynamic and settled here for pitching and hitting), I don't see any unusual comebacks. I think one big thing that people fail to utilize is the mound visit. That can settle a pitcher down when in tight spots. I have gotten out of my share of jams after taking a trip to the mound. I have also lost my share of games late but its more because tossing a meatball to a power hitter or something, nothing unusual.
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    • braves_94
      Rookie
      • Jul 2013
      • 275

      #3
      Re: Veteran level no shananagians

      On All-Star, I got out of a bases-loaded no out jam with Shelby Miller by calling for a mound visit. The batter lined out to second. Then I got in front of the next two hitters and got them chasing.

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      • MLB Bob
        MVP
        • Jan 2011
        • 1008

        #4
        Re: Veteran level no shananagians

        I heard it said it anything above all-star, not all-star and above

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        • vidgames
          Rookie
          • Apr 2014
          • 298

          #5
          Re: Veteran level no shananagians

          MLB Bob...don't be that guy.

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          • MLB Bob
            MVP
            • Jan 2011
            • 1008

            #6
            Re: Veteran level no shananagians

            Originally posted by vidgames
            MLB Bob...don't be that guy.
            im not being that guy. In many threads the discussion is that all star is default. so it would stand to reason that anything above has suggested bonuses and anything below the HUM player has the bonuses
            Last edited by MLB Bob; 06-08-2015, 06:16 PM.

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            • Baseball Purist
              Rookie
              • May 2010
              • 438

              #7
              Re: Veteran level no shananagians

              I would say playing on All-Star and below will give you good results, and keep your controller in tact.

              HOF and Legend, you'll need to accept the "weird" things that happen in baseball, and remember it's just a game.

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              • mlblover15
                3X MLBTS Champion
                • Dec 2004
                • 4144

                #8
                Re: Veteran level no shananagians

                i currently play on Veteran and i struggle hard core.. i am not the greatest player... my team batting average is about .250...

                i have a very strong lineup but offense isn't responding lately... i think i may have messed with my teams chemistry one too many times... if i could go back and not make some of the moves that i have made i would.

                i made most of my moves to increase my offense but it seems to be backfiring...
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                • Mrmagoo
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 669

                  #9
                  Re: Veteran level no shananagians

                  Originally posted by vidgames
                  MLB Bob...don't be that guy.
                  Lol... Boy it's getting bad in here... [emoji12]

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                  • Potatoes002
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 2143

                    #10
                    Re: Veteran level no shananagians

                    I never noticed the comeback AI on Veteran, but I am confident that it's there in some form on higher difficulty. This opinion is from my fairly large sample size.

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                    • bcruise
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 23274

                      #11
                      Re: Veteran level no shananagians

                      Originally posted by vidgames
                      MLB Bob...don't be that guy.
                      With all due respect, you wouldn't even be dealing with that issue if you'd phrased your OP as a simple "What kind of results are you guys getting on Veteran?" It just had to be tied to that topic. You can't mention it in your OP and not expect someone to call you on it.

                      On topic....I just don't find Veteran as enough of a challenge personally, much the same way some HOF guys can't enjoy All-Star. I know that well enough from how I blow through Vet level with power swings on CotW. By comparison, HoF on the challenges is where I really have to take it seriously, using my normal swing. On Legend I just swing contact and pray.

                      In addition I feel like the CPU pounds the strike zone too much on Vet and below, although that can be remedied a bit with the (early count) strike frequency slider - at least it gives more of an opportunity for the CPU to walk you.

                      Each to their own though - that's why we have 5 difficulty levels (10 if you include the Dynamic Difficulty +'s ). It all comes down to user skill and the interface the user chooses. I can play HoF hitting because my skill with Zone batting is enough to counter the hitting penalties I take from playing on that level. I wouldn't try to play Directional (timing), or analog on HoF because more is left up to the AI in making solid contact. If you DO play primarily Directional or analog though, Vet or All-Star might be a better fit. It's the same for pitching too - personally I'm not good enough to go above AS+ with meter pitching because the AI will just pummel me for huge innings. On Classic I wouldn't even try to go above All-Star.

                      JMO, as always.

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                      • Spokker
                        Pro
                        • May 2014
                        • 615

                        #12
                        Re: Veteran level no shananagians

                        I don't think there's comeback AI (the developer has stated there is not one line of comeback code), but I understand why people believe it. When you are doing well (getting green contact, hitting the pitching meter right on) and are still getting your *** handed to you, it's hard to not believe.

                        I'm getting routed by a team in the NLDS in my postseason. Kind of sucks to play all 162 games and lose it in the NLDS even when you think you are playing well (getting good counts, getting green contact). My hits just keep finding gloves and the other team is getting no doubt homers. In postseason play, all those quirks really amplify, like that animation where the guy seems like he's pulling his glove away from the ball. I even lowered the difficulty a notch and they are still killing me.

                        One game was so bad because I was finally leading, but my pitchers were too tired to go on, and I had a bad inning. The other team kept fouling off pitches and my bullpen could not handle it.

                        Can't do anything about it except make some good moves in the off season and remember that it's just a stupid game.
                        Last edited by Spokker; 06-09-2015, 01:05 AM.

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                        • CujoMatty
                          Member of Rush Nation
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 5445

                          #13
                          Re: Veteran level no shananagians

                          Offensively speaking I have no problem with anything on any level. I play on HOF for hitting and have had no issue.

                          Pitching however, anything above all star is just not fun. I get destroyed generally on HOF sometimes it seems like it's my fault other times it seems I'm getting jobbed. It's just not worth the effort. I manage to lose enough games on all star to make it challenging and almost always I feel like I could have did something different to change the outcome.
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                          • ShowTyme15
                            LADetermined
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 11853

                            #14
                            Re: Veteran level no shananagians

                            Originally posted by bcruise
                            With all due respect, you wouldn't even be dealing with that issue if you'd phrased your OP as a simple "What kind of results are you guys getting on Veteran?" It just had to be tied to that topic. You can't mention it in your OP and not expect someone to call you on it.

                            On topic....I just don't find Veteran as enough of a challenge personally, much the same way some HOF guys can't enjoy All-Star. I know that well enough from how I blow through Vet level with power swings on CotW. By comparison, HoF on the challenges is where I really have to take it seriously, using my normal swing. On Legend I just swing contact and pray.

                            In addition I feel like the CPU pounds the strike zone too much on Vet and below, although that can be remedied a bit with the (early count) strike frequency slider - at least it gives more of an opportunity for the CPU to walk you.

                            Each to their own though - that's why we have 5 difficulty levels (10 if you include the Dynamic Difficulty +'s ). It all comes down to user skill and the interface the user chooses. I can play HoF hitting because my skill with Zone batting is enough to counter the hitting penalties I take from playing on that level. I wouldn't try to play Directional (timing), or analog on HoF because more is left up to the AI in making solid contact. If you DO play primarily Directional or analog though, Vet or All-Star might be a better fit. It's the same for pitching too - personally I'm not good enough to go above AS+ with meter pitching because the AI will just pummel me for huge innings. On Classic I wouldn't even try to go above All-Star.

                            JMO, as always.
                            With the right set of sliders Veteran can actually be difficult.

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                            • LowerWolf
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 12268

                              #15
                              Re: Veteran level no shananagians

                              Originally posted by ShowTyme15
                              With the right set of sliders Veteran can actually be difficult.
                              Sliders and interfaces are the key, I think.

                              Veteran (with some slider tweaks) works for me using Timing hitting and Classic pitching. If I used Zone and Meter, I'd have to go up to All-Star.

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