Player Regression-how is everyone handeling it

[thawkprime 21]

Does anyone have a system that they are useing to hadel regression with older players. Like for example if a player is 34 and goes from a 86 to a 78 do you go back and only make them regress 40% of that or use some other system so that older players are still usefull.

[forme95]

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I play players by stats, not ovr lol. If they are hitting and producing, I keep playing them. I may take them out of the lineup more often for rest reasons, but other then that, they produce, they play.

[MLB Bob]

Re: Player Regression-how is everyone handeling it

Does anyone have a system that they are using to handle regression with older players. Like for example if a player is 34 and goes from a 86 to a 78 do you go back and only make them regress 40% of that or use some other system so that older players are still useful.

Mostly panic and anger.

Im with the other poster, go by results like real life. Theres no overall rating in real baseball (WAR is not an overall rating, its good for comparison but its still accumulative)

So if a player goes down by say 4-5 points..does he stop producing all together? Probably not. You may not even see a drop in stats. If you are concerned, theres several threads on the topic and enough people that have concern you could probably start a re-rating club. Theres one for trades, might as well have one asking what each player should get re-rated to after a season according to their stats

[Knight165]

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Handle it...?



No cryin'.

M.K.
Knight165

[KBLover]

Re: Player Regression-how is everyone handeling it

Does anyone have a system that they are useing to hadel regression with older players. Like for example if a player is 34 and goes from a 86 to a 78 do you go back and only make them regress 40% of that or use some other system so that older players are still usefull.

I go by production (regardless of age/rating changes, really). About the only time I'll make a switch is if their individual abilities have dropped (or just are) too low to warrant not giving someone else a shot. Or, in reverse, someone has shot up to have drastically more ability (not OVR, but important individual abilities) and has produced at the AAA level for a decent amount of time.

[HolyStroke3]

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In the offseason I signed 87 OVR Adrien Beltre to a 1 year/11.5 million contract. It's june 1 and he's down to 81 OVR and his BA has dropped 20 points in the last month. Not happy

[Ivanhoe]

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Most players production decreases in their mid to late 30's. And in the case of Pitchers who date supermodels, their early 30's!

There will be the rare freak of nature who's production doesn't drop until they are approaching 40. There are still others who get better in their late 30's and early 40's...but they have a little help.

[RogueHominid]

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I'm cool with letting production dictate playing time for guys on my roster initially, but I won't sign anyone who is over 30 to a multi-year deal. And for guys just shy of 30, I'm very wary of locking them up past 32.

I will say that I like how performance can stave off severe decline for some players.

[cmutat17]

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[quote=Ivanhoe;2047389006]Most players production decreases in their mid to late 30's. And in the case of Pitchers who date supermodels, their early 30's!

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That was clever. I hope JV can bounce back because I stole him in my fantasy league and I need to get some value for it.

I'm cool with letting production dictate playing time for guys on my roster initially, but I won't sign anyone who is over 30 to a multi-year deal. And for guys just shy of 30, I'm very wary of locking them up past 32.

I will say that I like how performance can stave off severe decline for some players.

I do a similar thing. I usually sign guys until they're 34. I notice most overall's take a nose dive at 35 and up.

[KBLover]

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I'm cool with letting production dictate playing time for guys on my roster initially, but I won't sign anyone who is over 30 to a multi-year deal. And for guys just shy of 30, I'm very wary of locking them up past 32.

I will say that I like how performance can stave off severe decline for some players.

I stayed away from Josh Hamilton in my franchise last offseason because I thought he'd drop off.

Turns out, he's just fine and raking. Good thing I have CarGo or I'd be ever so pissed at myself lol. Of course, I could have had a LF without giving the Rockies a trio of awesome prospects...

And guess who the Rockies signed...*sigh*

[Fours]

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I think the current ratings system makes it impossible to regress older stars properly.

The problem is that the attributes don't describe a players ability, they just dictate the stats he will produce.

35-40 year old players should realistically regress in durability, and explosive athleticism(bat speed, running speed), they don't have worse discipline, raw power, or fielding ability - unless injuries directly erode those skills.

I'd like to see raw tools get rated, and then intangibles rated separately. It would allow rookies to start with 90 power or speed and not automatically become 99 power/speed in few years, The tools would move very little up or down unless an injury directly affects them. Intangibles like base running ability, reaction, vision/discipline would be where prospects get large gains.

This would make a 35 year old with a 75 rating more valuable than a 20 year old 75 rating because the vets skills would translate to consistent results for the big club.


Meh, at least it's not as ridiculous as last year..

[andrew342678]

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I get rid of them quickly when all of their traits are declining rapidly no matter what training you do