Should the AI play the shift against more hitters?

[BrianU]

According to BIS, 2014’s shift total is on pace for a 68 percent increase over 2013’s total, which was itself up 78 percent over the 2012 total, which represented a 94 percent rise relative to 2011.

It would be interesting to keep track of the amount of times the CPU uses the shift then compare that to real life. I wish at least that it was team dependent, or manager dependent. That would be next level sim, lets go SCEA!

[canes21]

Re: Should the AI play the shift against more hitters?

We're in 2015 by the way.

[KBLover]

Re: Should the AI play the shift against more hitters?

According to BIS, 2014’s shift total is on pace for a 68 percent increase over 2013’s total, which was itself up 78 percent over the 2012 total, which represented a 94 percent rise relative to 2011.

It would be interesting to keep track of the amount of times the CPU uses the shift then compare that to real life. I wish at least that it was team dependent, or manager dependent. That would be next level sim, lets go SCEA!

What is the trigger for the shift?

Is it tied to certain players? Because Chris Davis, according to his hit chart, seems to be a perfect candidate for it (60% pull), but the AI never does it against him.

Of course, with the ease/frequency guys can go the other way in The Show, I don't know if I want more shifting. In real baseball, pull hitters refuse to/can't as easily go the other way on inside pitches. The Show hitters don't seem to have any qualms or problems doing so.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: Should the AI play the shift against more hitters?

It's hard coded for certain players. I would like to see a dynamic shift based on a number of factors.
1. Manager tendencies
2. Historical spray charts
3. Current spray charts

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[TheLetterZ]

Re: Should the AI play the shift against more hitters?

It's hard coded for certain players. I would like to see a dynamic shift based on a number of factors.
1. Manager tendencies
2. Historical spray charts
3. Current spray charts

I hope they follow a process like what you described for next year's edition.

[CanOfCornCobb]

Re: Should the AI play the shift against more hitters?

This would be nice. I would also like to see more shifts against right handed batters. Im actually not even sure if ive seen an infield shift for right handers.

[PadreFan84]

Re: Should the AI play the shift against more hitters?

Do the spray charts actually mean anything? It doesn't seem like the AI actually has the tendencies to hit the ball where the spray charts say they will.


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[nomo17k]

Re: Should the AI play the shift against more hitters?

In addition to what tbarnes19 mentioned, I would also like to see an option to adjust fielder positions manually (each fielder separately), instead of choosing from several preset positions.

For example, some people feel that (default) outfielder positioning in the game is a bit off, and that leads to a skewed ratio of doubles/triples... or the frequency of groud outs to RF. Being able to adjust the preset positions could help them tune the game to their liking.

Also, not all extreme shifts are similar... for example when an extreme shifts is one, some teams prefer moving the 3B over to the 2B and leave the SS where he normally plays (I remember Jeter was used like this) instead of shifting both 3B and SS.

These days I also often see teams putting 5 fielders playing in when the game is on the line in walk-off situations. It is not possible to do that with the current presets, but it can be done if fielders could be moved manually. (And I feel the current fielding A.I. in general is already smart enough to handle making appropriate decisions, even when a fielder is playing way out of his natural position.)


Drastic fielding shift being employed I think is one of more exciting aspects of modern baseball, and expanding on this area I feel will make the game open up quite a bit.

It may also help alleviate the often criticized aspect of the game, which is fielding being a bit automatic at times.

Overall I think it will make fielding quite a bit more strategic.

[jvalverde88]

Re: Should the AI play the shift against more hitters?

In addition to what tbarnes19 mentioned, I would also like to see an option to adjust fielder positions manually (each fielder separately), instead of choosing from several preset positions.

For example, some people feel that (default) outfielder positioning in the game is a bit off, and that leads to a skewed ratio of doubles/triples... or the frequency of groud outs to RF. Being able to adjust the preset positions could help them tune the game to their liking.

Also, not all extreme shifts are similar... for example when an extreme shifts is one, some teams prefer moving the 3B over to the 2B and leave the SS where he normally plays (I remember Jeter was used like this) instead of shifting both 3B and SS.


Drastic fielding shift being employed I think is one of more exciting aspects of modern baseball, and expanding on this area I feel will make the game open up quite a bit.

It may also help alleviate the often criticized aspect of the game, which is fielding being a bit automatic at times.

Overall I think it will make fielding quite a bit more strategic.

I'm hoping to get this option so we can do the 5 man infield, which BTW I'm surprised its not a shift in the game since its been used a lot for the past couple of years.

[rjackson]

Re: Should the AI play the shift against more hitters?

At this point, I'd be happy if double play would be on the quick shifts menu when you hit down.

[PadreFan84]

Re: Should the AI play the shift against more hitters?

In addition to what tbarnes19 mentioned, I would also like to see an option to adjust fielder positions manually (each fielder separately), instead of choosing from several preset positions.

For example, some people feel that (default) outfielder positioning in the game is a bit off, and that leads to a skewed ratio of doubles/triples... or the frequency of groud outs to RF. Being able to adjust the preset positions could help them tune the game to their liking.

Also, not all extreme shifts are similar... for example when an extreme shifts is one, some teams prefer moving the 3B over to the 2B and leave the SS where he normally plays (I remember Jeter was used like this) instead of shifting both 3B and SS.

These days I also often see teams putting 5 fielders playing in when the game is on the line in walk-off situations. It is not possible to do that with the current presets, but it can be done if fielders could be moved manually. (And I feel the current fielding A.I. in general is already smart enough to handle making appropriate decisions, even when a fielder is playing way out of his natural position.)


Drastic fielding shift being employed I think is one of more exciting aspects of modern baseball, and expanding on this area I feel will make the game open up quite a bit.

It may also help alleviate the often criticized aspect of the game, which is fielding being a bit automatic at times.

Overall I think it will make fielding quite a bit more strategic.

Agree 100%!!


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