MLB 15 The Show Video - Online Problems of a Different Sort

[AnEternalEnigma]

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I just rage quit a game against a prick who was steal/rundown cheesing. He'd get in rundowns, knowing my catcher would likely rainbow lob the ball to third, which he did, allowing the runner to score because throwing animations are so slow online.

Anytime I see a DD team with Dee Gordon at the top, I pretty much know what to expect. I'm this close to no longer playing this game online because of the speed cheesers.

[ChaseB]

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I just rage quit a game against a prick who was steal/rundown cheesing. He'd get in rundowns, knowing my catcher would likely rainbow lob the ball to third, which he did, allowing the runner to score because throwing animations are so slow online.

The rundowns is another good one. You start to try to hold on to the ball until the last second because of the ability for the runner to turn around quickly, but it ends up hurting you a lot of the time.

[HustlinOwl]

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also look at pitch outs on steals and how runner can stop on a dime and retreat to original base, I have never seen a base stealer doing this in a game

[Wolverines05]

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really great vid Chase!!! I'd love for the devs to develop a new mechanic for bunting that incorporates a PCI.

[ChaseB]

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also look at pitch outs on steals and how runner can stop on a dime and retreat to original base, I have never seen a base stealer doing this in a game

Yeah this is another good one. I don't think you should not be allowed to go back at all because there's still a chance you accidentally pressed the steal button. That being said, you more or less know you're going to be able to swipe the bag based on your jump. So if a pitch out or a bad jump occurs you can generally react quick enough to run back if the catcher throws to second, so it's not really fair to the defense.

really great vid Chase!!! I'd love for the devs to develop a new mechanic for bunting that incorporates a PCI.

Thanks for the feedback! I originally thought about just doing the video purely on steals and bunts because they really are the two biggest issues, but felt it might get a bit boring detailing each of the scenarios/reasons why both are unbalanced online.

[jeffmc_scea]

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also look at pitch outs on steals and how runner can stop on a dime and retreat to original base, I have never seen a base stealer doing this in a game

There is an exploit/bug related to the stop animation. It allows the runner to change directions much too quickly. This happens offline as well and will be addressed. Thanks again for all the feedback.

[AnEternalEnigma]

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There is an exploit/bug related to the stop animation. It allows the runner to change directions much too quickly. This happens offline as well and will be addressed. Thanks again for all the feedback.

Thanks for contributing here. It does mean a good bit when a developer openly interacts about these very frustrating things.

Another thing that is frustrating is when there's a chopper at the plate. The catcher just springs right up and won't go after the ball until the stand-up animation is complete. Causes a lot of singles that shouldn't be.

[ChaseB]

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Another thing that is frustrating is when there's a chopper at the plate. The catcher just springs right up and won't go after the ball until the stand-up animation is complete. Causes a lot of singles that shouldn't be.

Yeah, there are a couple examples of that in the video Enigma, so I assume he was/is aware of that one as well.

[berenjena]

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Excellent Chase.

You basically got every single problem I have with The Show in one video. EVERY SINGLE ONE.

That bunting animation people do while you're pitching or the perfect bunts is the most infuriating one.

Not to mention the delay animations.

Hopefully the MLB The Show devs are playing really close attention to this video,

Sort this out guys. The online would be nearly perfect if you can sort the stuff in the video out.

[baseballsim]

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I watched the video but without sound so I'm not sure if this was covered:

Quick pitching while men on base. It's gotten to a point where I'm so used to it that I think it's me hitting poorly because of lack of concentration. I have accepted the fact that balks will never be called.

On the other side, I have tried quick pitching myself to see how effective it is. Ball control takes a hit but that doesn't matter because opponents usually swing through most pitches.

[ChaseB]

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I watched the video but without sound so I'm not sure if this was covered:

Quick pitching while men on base. It's gotten to a point where I'm so used to it that I think it's me hitting poorly because of lack of concentration. I have accepted the fact that balks will never be called.

On the other side, I have tried quick pitching myself to see how effective it is. Ball control takes a hit but that doesn't matter because opponents usually swing through most pitches.

It was not covered but it's a fair point. I think balks online would be tricky because some just want to be able to pitch and some guys do have long animations before they're set. That being said, it's super distracting and frenetic when people are just speed pitching the whole time. However, I wonder on some level if they do it (even though it doesn't really help) to try and prevent steals.

[baseballsim]

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It was not covered but it's a fair point. I think balks online would be tricky because some just want to be able to pitch and some guys do have long animations before they're set. That being said, it's super distracting and frenetic when people are just speed pitching the whole time. However, I wonder on some level if they do it (even though it doesn't really help) to try and prevent steals.

I don't think it's really a SB preventer because you just need to press a button to setup a steal but it may help some guys to some extent.

Balks were on last year and I believe one year balks were accidentally turned off but the developers were alerted and they were able to turn balks back on instantly. It may be an issue this year where balks were causing freezes so they turned it off. It may also be to help cater to more players because some might not understand balk rules.

As far as animations go, Kershaw is a good example of a pitcher with a long animation. When balks were on, the game did actually allow you to release the ball early without being charged with a balk. You didn't have to wait for Kershaw to lower his arms all the way from above his head.

[Steven78]

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Balks and fastplay off should be options for sure.

[baseballsim]

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I played a team last night who always sent the runner on first whenever there were 2 strikes. If the ball went into the dirt my catcher would automatically throw to 2B. There was no way for him to throw to first.

In this same game I was also was the victim of the dreaded missed tag animation during a pickle. My third baseman had the ball. Runner on 2nd retreated back. Third baseman faked to 2B. Runner ran to 3B right through the tag.

[cgsdawgs]

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I think a good idea would be to drop the speed ratings way down, still relative to the old ones, but nothing in the 90s or even 80s maybe. Madden devs heard that speed was being exploited in the game, so they gave the fastest players low 90s as opposed to 98, 99. Of course it is yet to be seen how well that will work but it seems like a good idea.

On the bright side, unlike a game like FIFA or Madden, there are no DD seasons, so if you don't really care about record, quitting doesn't really affect you too much. Also your opponent doesn't get any huge benefit from playing a stupidly boring game.

Also a quick question (Sorry it is OT): This is my first post here. Is there a certain number of posts you need to get to in order to post new threads?