Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

[countryboy]

Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

Is a baseball brawl really considered assault? I figure there would be arrests if so.

Guys mostly push and shove during brawls. I rarely see punches thrown.

I didn't think someone would take it so literal.

It's violence, it's not going to be in the game

[redsox4evur]

Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

I didn't think someone would take it so literal.

It's violence, it's not going to be in the game

If there was baseball in Montreal they would...see Zdeno Chara incident.

[Spokker]

Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

I didn't think someone would take it so literal.

It's violence, it's not going to be in the game

If the MLB didn't want it to be a part of baseball they would clamp down on brawls, but they don't. They show them on MLB.com and upload them to YouTube, and they get a lot of views.

Clearing the benches is absolutely a part of baseball and it's not uncommon. If MLB or the players union doesn't want it in the video game, it's hypocrisy.

But we don't know for sure what the reason is. I was under the impression that we are speculating.

[countryboy]

Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

If the MLB didn't want it to be a part of baseball they would clamp down on brawls, but they don't. They show them on MLB.com and upload them to YouTube, and they get a lot of views.

Clearing the benches is absolutely a part of baseball and it's not uncommon. If MLB or the players union doesn't want it in the video game, it's hypocrisy.

But we don't know for sure what the reason is. I was under the impression that we are speculating.

They suspend people and fine them for brawls. That is their way of dealing with it.

Hypocrisy? Really?

Here's the thing. If you allow brawls in the game, then you are in a sense portraying a player as being someone who is violent. That isn't really fair to said player. The game itself has an image that they want to portray in the video game that is played by fans both young and old. The Player's Union has images and reputations of players that they must protect, therefore they don't want a player to be portrayed in a video game as someone that he isn't.

Its the same reason you don't see technical fouls in basketball games or pushing and shoving matches, why you don't see personal fouls and scuffles in football games. The leagues have an image they want portrayed in video games and the players unions have reputations and character of its players they want to protect.

[tessl]

Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

It could be because the MLB isn't really talking/looking into relocation right now whereas the NFL is with LA and London being the 2 biggest cities. In the MLB, they want to keep their teams in the same general area they are in. They are not actively looking into relocating teams like the Rays and A's. They are having the teams looking into getting new stadiums with the Rays actually moving to Tampa instead of St. Pete.

Half the teams in the league have relocated or changed the name at one time or another. You could be right but I doubt MLB cares whether somebody in franchise mode wants to relocate or rename their team.

But to the point of why they don't have fights and PED suspensions, there are a lot of things which happen in real life but aren't in video games. No players in video games have to retire due to HIV and yet that did happen. In video games no owners have to sell the team because the owner's mistress released a recording and yet that did happen. No players in video games who are already suspended for drugs get caught driving 140 mph with drugs and a gun in the car and yet that did happen IRL.

There are some things in licensed games you aren't going to see.

[ShowTyme15]

Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

They suspend people and fine them for brawls. That is their way of dealing with it.

Hypocrisy? Really?

Here's the thing. If you allow brawls in the game, then you are in a sense portraying a player as being someone who is violent. That isn't really fair to said player. The game itself has an image that they want to portray in the video game that is played by fans both young and old. The Player's Union has images and reputations of players that they must protect, therefore they don't want a player to be portrayed in a video game as someone that he isn't.

Its the same reason you don't see technical fouls in basketball games or pushing and shoving matches, why you don't see personal fouls and scuffles in football games. The leagues have an image they want portrayed in video games and the players unions have reputations and character of its players they want to protect.

You're just wasting your time now CB........some people aren't going to get it no matter how crystal clear you or others make it.

[Spokker]

Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

Here's the thing. If you allow brawls in the game, then you are in a sense portraying a player as being someone who is violent.

Hey, if they really wanted to stop bench clearing brawls, both teams record a loss if it happens in a game, and the game is over. There, problem solved.

ALL players participate in bench clearing brawls at minimum to support their team. Do you know ANYONE in baseball that is going to sit on the bench and not support their team? The freakin' bullpen comes out from the outfield to show support for their teammates.

When it comes to instigators, it's certainly possible to flag certain players so that they will be allowed to not be allowed to start a brawl. Trout's flag is going to be turned off. But Yordano Ventura's flag could be set to be on, because he is a young hothead sometimes.

If the players don't like it, how about not instigating brawls in real life?

I'm not saying that I expect bench clearing brawls to appear in MLB 16, but at the same time you don't make it "crystal clear" and there are other opinions than yours. If brawls were included, it wouldn't be the end of the world and no one's reputation would be ruined. Fighting in hockey doesn't stop it from being popular.

It's a corporate mentality that values image over substance, the substance being realism.

[countryboy]

Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

Hey, if they really wanted to stop bench clearing brawls, both teams record a loss if it happens in a game, and the game is over. There, problem solved.

Ok...propose that thought to the MLB.

ALL players participate in bench clearing brawls at minimum to support their team. Do you know ANYONE in baseball that is going to sit on the bench and not support their team? The freakin' bullpen comes out from the outfield to show support for their teammates.

I know that ALL players participate in bench clearing brawls. But they are instigated by one person who decides to charge the mound or at times take exception to something that happens on the basepaths. Players don't just all the sudden rumble in the middle of the field for the hell of it.

When it comes to instigators, it's certainly possible to flag certain players so that they will be allowed to not be allowed to start a brawl. Trout's flag is going to be turned off. But Yordano Ventura's flag could be set to be on, because he is a young hothead sometimes.

And this is why I don't believe that you'll ever see brawls/charging the mound in the game again. You are in a sense putting a poor reputation on a player just because he may have been the cause of a scuffle.

If the players don't like it, how about not instigating brawls in real life?

Ummm...ok

I'm not saying that I expect bench clearing brawls to appear in MLB 16, but at the same time you don't make it "crystal clear" and there are other opinions than yours. If brawls were included, it wouldn't be the end of the world and no one's reputation would be ruined. Fighting in hockey doesn't stop it from being popular.

I never said it was crystal clear nor did I say that others opinions don't matter??? And I never said it would be the end of the world, just giving my OPINION as to why I don't think you'll see brawls in the game.

And hockey actually promotes fighting in their sport, which is why they typically only put a player out for a certain amount of game time and then he's allowed to come back.

Baseball doesn't promote fighting as a part of its sport.

It's a corporate mentality that values image over substance, the substance being realism.

Players also sometimes hit women, take drugs, crash cars that kill themselves and/or others, get arrested for DUI, take PEDS, don't take care of their children, gamble away money, etc...

Should we include those things in the video game, because lets face it, without those types of instances, the game isn't "realistic"

[Spokker]

Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

I never said it was crystal clear nor did I say that others opinions don't matter??? And I never said it would be the end of the world, just giving my OPINION as to why I don't think you'll see brawls in the game.

That's what another poster said and you liked his post. I'm just supposed to "get it" and if I don't, you're wasting your time.

And I'm giving my opinion on why brawls should be in the game. I'm not saying players should be depicted throwing punches or grappling, but the bench clearing and sort of brushing up against each other is absolutely a part of baseball and does not in any way negatively impact the reputation of the sport or its players. Talking about bench-clearing brawls along with domestic violence and drug abuse is a bit silly.

I agree 100% with you on the reasons why MLB would not allow it. I'm just saying their reasons are nonsensical. If they wanted to protect their image based on brawls, they would turn the camera away when they happen like they do with players who run on the field.

Would you want to see brawls in the game if our corporate overlords allowed it?

[kehlis]

Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

Guys.

Those of you that are being told things you disagree with and hearing things you don't want to hear are from things that have been told to us year after year by the dev staff. It's not necessarily an opinion shared by the poster sharing it.

You can argue all you want but you are arguing with the wrong entity and posting it here the way some are isn't likely to produce or start any change any time soon.


Speaking for myself, I would love to see this stuff in the game but based on explanations we've been given I understand why they arent.

[countryboy]

Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

That's what another poster said and you liked his post. I'm just supposed to "get it" and if I don't, you're wasting your time.

And I'm giving my opinion on why brawls should be in the game. I'm not saying players should be depicted throwing punches or grappling, but the bench clearing and sort of brushing up against each other is absolutely a part of baseball and does not in any way negatively impact the reputation of the sport or its players. Talking about bench-clearing brawls along with domestic violence and drug abuse is a bit silly.

I agree 100% with you on the reasons why MLB would not allow it. I'm just saying their reasons are nonsensical. If they wanted to protect their image based on brawls, they would turn the camera away when they happen like they do with players who run on the field.

Would you want to see brawls in the game if our corporate overlords allowed it?

I'm getting dizzy from going round and round so I'm going to hop off the ride here.

Take care

[dpower15]

Re: Does the MLB enforce similar rules to The Show as the NFL does to Madden?

I could care less about brawls being in it. Makes sense to me why they wouldn't want them in.

However, I do think they should allow stadium rebuilding. Even if we can't relocate a team, being able to build a new stadium would be awesome. I can never bring myself to use the As or Rays for a franchise because of their stadiums being so bad even though both have systems similar to what I like to use for my franchises.


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