Older Players

[zello144]

I think that older players play better with lower ratings then the young guys with higher ratings. Maybe something to do with experience?

[Trent Booty]

Re: Older Players

Maybe older guys with the SAME ratings as a younger guy will play better, but I don't know about lower ratings.

[YankeeVic]

Re: Older Players

Yes and unfortunately, there's no way to stop those players from retiring. For example, I'd love to keep Ichiro or Big Papi as pinch hitters or spot players off of the bench but they retire in the second season.

[KBLover]

Re: Older Players

I think that older players play better with lower ratings then the young guys with higher ratings. Maybe something to do with experience?

It might have to do with their individual skill ratings.

OVR is just a amalgamation of everything else with varying weights. If the older guy has skills that work together but not as high-weighted as what the younger guy is skilled in - the older player could be better in-game.

Position, role, what you ask of him, sim or played, etc. All of this comes into play.

This is especially true of pitchers. HR/9 does nothing in played out games - it only works in sim games. So if you play all/most of your games, a pitcher that's lower rated because his HR/9 isn't as high could very well do as well or better than the one with the very high HR/9.

I don't have a lot of old players on my team, but Iwakuma is one that's doing better with his ratings than younger prospects I have with better OVR.

For example, Quinn Williams is at 83/B while Iwakuma is at 78/B. Quinn's fatal flaw? 43 H/9 and very inconsistent movement on his pitches. Quinn also has a sky high HR/9, which helps him in AAA (since I sim most minors games), but when I call him up, Quinn gets destroyed. Iwakuma isn't great anywhere, but does not have such a horrid weakness and his H/9 and pitches are more rounded and dependable, especially the movement (82 for Iwakuma, 58 for Williams).

[YankeeVic]

Re: Older Players

Has anyone tried to edit the age of Papi and Ichiro by a couple years to see if they keep playing instead of retiring at years end?

[HozAndMoose]

Re: Older Players

Has anyone tried to edit the age of Papi and Ichiro by a couple years to see if they keep playing instead of retiring at years end?

Cant edit their age. Would have to create a fake version of them to do it.

[redsoxfan31]

Re: Older Players

Cant edit their age. Would have to create a fake version of them to do it.

would editing their contract to be two years instead of one help at all? I thought I read somewhere that all those guys who retire because of age or poor free agent markets are usually done because there's room that has to be made for draftees and many of them are in final year of contracts. Would giving Papi and Ichiro a second year keep them around?

[HozAndMoose]

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would editing their contract to be two years instead of one help at all? I thought I read somewhere that all those guys who retire because of age or poor free agent markets are usually done because there's room that has to be made for draftees and many of them are in final year of contracts. Would giving Papi and Ichiro a second year keep them around?

I believe so. Pretty sure players that are under contract dont retire due to age anymore. Might have changed though.

[zello144]

Re: Older Players

I think age plays a role in this game
In DD my created player was 18 modeled him after Vladimir Guerrero when I bumped up his age to 29 he started playing better.

[NewNapkin]

Re: Older Players

Whenever I have an injury in my franchise, and I'm not too excited about organizational replacements, I look straight to the FA list to see if there are any interesting old guys. While they may be past their prime, and their ratings show that, they not only add a player who could be solid and play some games like their former self, but they add a great storyline to the season.

I'm sure the effect is placebo, but I definitely notice it too!

[TheWarmWind]

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It would be cool if there was a system where the further a player was from prime, the less accurate their ratings are. The ratings of an 18 your old or a 39 year old would basically be based on projections, not reality. That way, there is the possibility for young guys to outperform projections and earn a spot really early in MLB, and more reason to take risks on older veterans.

I agree though I've had quite a few cases where old veterans have played significantly better than their young counterparts, despite being equally rated or worse.

It's not absolute, but it's enough for me to consider giving a high 60's, low 70's veteran a one year contract. Especially if I have a hole on my roster to fill and I want more than just prospects as options.