Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

[Slyone14]

SO I just picked up the game, Yes, I know im late! But, I am looking for a full rebuilding team. I started a franchise with the Reds already cause they are a full blown project. Now, I am looking for a full blown project in the American league. Or atleast a rebuilding team. I did the Twins last year and enjoyed it. THis year I am thinking of the A's, but need input to if they are considered one of the rebuilding teams. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

Well, they are last in the AL right now. They also traded away Josh Donaldson at the beginning of the year. A's are probably the most interesting rebuild because you also have to deal with an extremely tight budget.

IRL the Tigers, White Sox, and Red Sox all had hugely disappointing seasons and are probably entering a re-build phase, but I'm not sure how that translates into the game. Besides, the Red Sox don't re-build, they just buy.

Probably your next best bet in terms of interesting re-builds are the Cleveland Indians. They have a lot of good assets, but they aren't quite "there" yet. Still, exciting team with a lot of good elements to build around. Plus you get to play in a better park than O.co.

[kenp86]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

Tampa, Indians, twins, As, Tigers I think are your candidates. Wouldn't put twins in there since you said you did that last year and they're on the verge of contending I think. TWW said it best in regards to Boston, they don't rebuild just buy.

[redsox4evur]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

Well, they are last in the AL right now. They also traded away Josh Donaldson at the beginning of the year. A's are probably the most interesting rebuild because you also have to deal with an extremely tight budget.

IRL the Tigers, White Sox, and Red Sox all had hugely disappointing seasons and are probably entering a re-build phase, but I'm not sure how that translates into the game. Besides, the Red Sox don't re-build, they just buy.

Probably your next best bet in terms of interesting re-builds are the Cleveland Indians. They have a lot of good assets, but they aren't quite "there" yet. Still, exciting team with a lot of good elements to build around. Plus you get to play in a better park than O.co.

Yea the Red Sox aren't in a rebuilding mode. Look at what they did at the deadline, which was NOTHING. If they were rebuilding they would gutted this team of their bad contracts and traded guys like Koji. They think this is a fluke year and will bounce back next year. The only move they made prior to the deadline was trading Victorino and then they were looking into a 3 way deal with the Cubs and Padres that would have probably gotten them James Shields and a couple of other guys and they would have sent off Sandoval.

[Slyone14]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

Well, they are last in the AL right now. They also traded away Josh Donaldson at the beginning of the year. A's are probably the most interesting rebuild because you also have to deal with an extremely tight budget.

IRL the Tigers, White Sox, and Red Sox all had hugely disappointing seasons and are probably entering a re-build phase, but I'm not sure how that translates into the game. Besides, the Red Sox don't re-build, they just buy.

Probably your next best bet in terms of interesting re-builds are the Cleveland Indians. They have a lot of good assets, but they aren't quite "there" yet. Still, exciting team with a lot of good elements to build around. Plus you get to play in a better park than O.co.

Thanks for the advice, Some follow up questions. IM a big fan of the show, so excuse some dumb questions im just recently into baseball.


As far as the Oakland A's, I just choose them honestly cause of the ratings on the show, but feel I could trade a couple players and one of the there great pithcers and be right there. NOt sure though.


I honestly never thought of the Tigers, I always thought they were a good team. Don't they have Lots of great pieces? Should I gut Verlander, Cabrera, and Martinez? How would I approach them? I always look at their ratings and say no way.


Finally, for the Indians, based on what I was reading, there is not much to do here, just let them develop. IF this is wrong, what is the direction here?


IF you were me, what would be your suggestion and why? These are too many choices.


Thanks

[Slyone14]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

And if it makes any difference, I do use the OFSM latest version rosters for the franchise.

[kenp86]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

That's the thing about the tigers. Cabrera isn't going anywhere. Verlander is untradeable due to the contact and Victor isn't going anywhere either unless he's absolutely raking at the deadline and the tigers are out of it. Sanchez is movable. Simon is a FA. Farm team is vacant. Pitching staff is nonexistent. So we're the Phillies. It's a rebuild if u ask me. Lol from a tigers fan

[Slyone14]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

That's the thing about the tigers. Cabrera isn't going anywhere. Verlander is untradeable due to the contact and Victor isn't going anywhere either unless he's absolutely raking at the deadline and the tigers are out of it. Sanchez is movable. Simon is a FA. Farm team is vacant. Pitching staff is nonexistent. So we're the Phillies. It's a rebuild if u ask me. Lol from a tigers fan

This is good advice, I think and it points me in a good direction. Do you have any advice on steps from here to begin the process? Or maybe some pointers? I would appreciate it

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

IF you were me, what would be your suggestion and why? These are too many choices.

Thanks

If I were you, I would choose the Indians. I have a few reasons why and I probably play differently than you do, so take that into consideration.

First and foremost, I should re-state that I think the A's are a more interesting re-build, I just hate playing in O.co. Progressive is a nice park and IF you play all of your games (like me) you're going to want to like your home park. If you are simming a lot then park aesthetics/quirks don't matter as much.

Your right when you say that for the most part the Indians just need to sit and wait with what they have. A big part of what I like about their team is depth and sustainability. There are, however, a few pieces that are missing, and they could use some more elements to their game.

Swisher is aging and not really the power threat he once was, and Santana is a dice role every season. I feel that while there is a lot of balance on the team, there are no real power threats or speed threats. Pitching is balanced and deep, which is always nice to have right out of the bat, but the bullpen could use a boost. I think that the Indians are interesting because you can trade your vets for guys who will eventually fill those holes, both on defense and offense. While you're waiting for those guys to develop, you can still play meaningful baseball.

I think what really interests me about the Indians is that they are a decent team right now, but if you play it right you have a good shot of turning that team into a dynasty.

[Slyone14]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

If I were you, I would choose the Indians. I have a few reasons why and I probably play differently than you do, so take that into consideration.

First and foremost, I should re-state that I think the A's are a more interesting re-build, I just hate playing in O.co. Progressive is a nice park and IF you play all of your games (like me) you're going to want to like your home park. If you are simming a lot then park aesthetics/quirks don't matter as much.

Your right when you say that for the most part the Indians just need to sit and wait with what they have. A big part of what I like about their team is depth and sustainability. There are, however, a few pieces that are missing, and they could use some more elements to their game.

Swisher is aging and not really the power threat he once was, and Santana is a dice role every season. I feel that while there is a lot of balance on the team, there are no real power threats or speed threats. Pitching is balanced and deep, which is always nice to have right out of the bat, but the bullpen could use a boost. I think that the Indians are interesting because you can trade your vets for guys who will eventually fill those holes, both on defense and offense. While you're waiting for those guys to develop, you can still play meaningful baseball.

I think what really interests me about the Indians is that they are a decent team right now, but if you play it right you have a good shot of turning that team into a dynasty.

Thanks for the advice I'm stuck now between Cleveland and Tigers for my AL team. With Indians I would move Santana (if he bombs again), Swisher, and one more guy to add more prospects while finding a Speedy leadoff man, like Davis maybe. It seems a fun challenge imho.

The Tigers seem Alot of fun also, but, and one I'd like to try. But, looking at the roster, it almost seems easy. You have Cabrera and we all know what he can do. Add davis and Vict Mart and Verlander and doesn't seem much left to do. But the history and fan base seems enjoyable, add to it I live in Lakeland, fl and watch all their spring games. Again, just seems too easy, unless I'm wrong.

Someone said they are the Phillies but I see them in much worse conditions with their age.

Just can't decide between the two

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

hah, I just looked it up, and swisher is in Atlanta now. Shows what I know. Still you've got lots of great pieces to build around and you've got guys like Santana, Marcum, and Johnson that you can hopefully unload for the future.

Detroit it might be difficult to do a re-build. They are kind of a good team who just had a crummy year.

Now I kind of want to do an Indians re-build.

[kenp86]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

I control 6 teams in my career and simmed two seasons, Tigers missed playoffs both times. Granted you'd be playing. But age is a problem. Pitching is a problem. Farm system is a problem. I also see the draw with the Indians too. I think they're in better shape than the tigers though. You could look to trade kinsler, Davis, Sanchez, Cespedes(if you're using pre-deadline rosters), Avila to further the rebuild.

I actually put Avila on waivers and got lucky that Miami picked him up lol They do have a decent core with McCann, JD, Cabrera, JV, Nick C, Iglesias. A few decent prospects in Fulmer(post dl roster), Rondon, Norris, Moya(if you still consider him one). But that being said, the system is BARE. I always sign Tyler Guerreri and Mauricio Cabrera out of the FA pool and wait for them to blossom in a year or two. Lol

[Slyone14]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

hah, I just looked it up, and swisher is in Atlanta now. Shows what I know. Still you've got lots of great pieces to build around and you've got guys like Santana, Marcum, and Johnson that you can hopefully unload for the future.

Detroit it might be difficult to do a re-build. They are kind of a good team who just had a crummy year.

Now I kind of want to do an Indians re-build.

LOl, me too now, did you mean, an easy team to re-build?? As in they are a good team, who had crummy years? Trying to figure out this statement, if they are a good team, they its an easy rebuild, right?

[sydrogerdavid]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

They aren't a rebuilding team in my franchise. They lead the AL West by 5 games over the Astros.

My franchise is weird though. Other than the Royals, Mets, Dodgers, and my Cardinals leading their divisions, the rest of the teams are flip-flopped from real life.

The NL Central is Me, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Chicago, and Pittsburgh.

[TheWarmWind]

Re: Are the Oakland A's a rebuilding team?

LOl, me too now, did you mean, an easy team to re-build?? As in they are a good team, who had crummy years? Trying to figure out this statement, if they are a good team, they its an easy rebuild, right?

Problem is they have a lot of highly rated players still. I presume part of the reason why the OP wants a re-build is because he wants to take a team, break it down, and build it back up with his own personal influence mixed in.

But who in their right mind would trade away Cabrera? Even Kinsler and Verlander are difficult trades, especially if you're playing with budgets.

I still say the Indians are the best choice for the OP because there is a lot to keep if you like it, and a lot to trade if you don't. It really is one of the most flexible teams in the game. You could go for right now or you could go full blown re-build, or something in between. It's all viable with the Indians.