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  • Slyone14
    MVP
    • Dec 2011
    • 1036

    #1

    Rookie pitchers with only 3 pitches?

    I swear I read this thread somewhere, but after looking for awhile, I cant seem to locate it. So I apologize.


    So I just got the game about a month ago and I am playing two teams. One National League team and one American League team. I did my first year incoming draft and choose a couple Pitchers for both teams.


    Fast forward to three months into year two, and I moved my first round pitcher up to the majors. The biggest issue I am having is he only has three pitchers in his arsenal. I checked another rookie I drafted and the same thing. How does this work? Does he automatically get more? Can I Edit it?


    Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you
  • johntait1
    Rookie
    • Feb 2015
    • 116

    #2
    Re: Rookie pitchers with only 3 pitches?

    He won't get any more pitches so you will have to add them manually.

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52732

      #3
      Re: Rookie pitchers with only 3 pitches?

      Yeah, something sorely needed is the ability to train pitchers to learn new pitches.

      Any rookies above 70 I add a 4th pitch and base it on their current pitches. I rate it 5 pts lower than their weakest pitch. If they are above 80 I add a 5th pitch, and do the same thing. This is for "A" potential pitchers and I cut the age off at 25. For "B" potential pitchers I follow the same ratings, but their additional pitches are rated 10 points lower than their weakest pitch.

      Tends to work out well.
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      • TheWarmWind
        MVP
        • Apr 2015
        • 2620

        #4
        Re: Rookie pitchers with only 3 pitches?

        Originally posted by countryboy
        Yeah, something sorely needed is the ability to train pitchers to learn new pitches.

        Any rookies above 70 I add a 4th pitch and base it on their current pitches. I rate it 5 pts lower than their weakest pitch. If they are above 80 I add a 5th pitch, and do the same thing. This is for "A" potential pitchers and I cut the age off at 25. For "B" potential pitchers I follow the same ratings, but their additional pitches are rated 10 points lower than their weakest pitch.

        Tends to work out well.
        I'll add a 4th pitch if they have stats that favour the SP position (H/9, BB/9, Stamina). I also would consider a 3 pitch SP if those three pitches are 4SFB, CH, Slider (or curveball, slurve, slider is preferable) since that is enough to form a legitimate pitch strategy over multiple innings (and therefore wouldn't get as much pressure to learn new pitches from coaches/teammates). I have a few guys in my farm team however that even though they are listed as SP, I figure they'll only ever be a reliever based on pitch set and stats. Lots of potential starters end up as relievers in real life due to the fact that they can't expand their repertoire.

        I have, however, put a 5th pitch on a 4 pitch pitcher if I feel it is needed to balance out their repertoire. I put the pitch velocity near a similar pitch in the pitchers existing repertoire put put control and movement 5 points below the pitcher's worst pitch.

        I'm just saying these things as a different opinion on how to handle it for the OP's sake. Really at the end of the day it's up to the individual player to decide how to handle adding pitches (if they decide to do it at all).

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        • braves_94
          Rookie
          • Jul 2013
          • 275

          #5
          Re: Rookie pitchers with only 3 pitches?

          A lot of pitchers just throw two or three pitches. Clayton Kershaw rarely throws his 4th pitch, a change up. He might throw it once a game, if at all. Chris Sale throws a fastball, change up, and slider. Typically pitchers only have one fastball, but fx graphs pick up movement, so if it breaks too much their typical fastball might be deemed a two-seemer. It's nothing they can really control.

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          • Slyone14
            MVP
            • Dec 2011
            • 1036

            #6
            Re: Rookie pitchers with only 3 pitches?

            Thanks for the replies, I really appreciate it very much. When I get home I plan to implement this system for my rookie pitchers, but I first will see how they pitch too. I will do these steps for the 4rth pitch, based on the potential. Like the previous poster says, just kinda have to judge it on a case by case basis. So again, I appreciate it, I now know how to proceed from here.

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            • KBLover
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 12172

              #7
              Re: Rookie pitchers with only 3 pitches?

              Originally posted by countryboy
              Yeah, something sorely needed is the ability to train pitchers to learn new pitches.
              So much this. I'd even take a significant risk in negative development/losing points/performance risks elsewhere.

              I'd also like the ability to try to drop pitches. Perhaps with the same drawbacks until it succeeds.
              "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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              • Slyone14
                MVP
                • Dec 2011
                • 1036

                #8
                Re: Rookie pitchers with only 3 pitches?

                Originally posted by countryboy
                Yeah, something sorely needed is the ability to train pitchers to learn new pitches.

                Any rookies above 70 I add a 4th pitch and base it on their current pitches. I rate it 5 pts lower than their weakest pitch. If they are above 80 I add a 5th pitch, and do the same thing. This is for "A" potential pitchers and I cut the age off at 25. For "B" potential pitchers I follow the same ratings, but their additional pitches are rated 10 points lower than their weakest pitch.

                Tends to work out well.


                IM having issues in my franchise adding a pitch to a rookie, when I do roster, select rookie, and then edit, and the section where there his other pitches, I don't see how to add anymore pitches?


                Could someone please tell me how to add a pitch to someone? Thanks

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                • TheWarmWind
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 2620

                  #9
                  Re: Rookie pitchers with only 3 pitches?

                  Originally posted by Slyone14
                  IM having issues in my franchise adding a pitch to a rookie, when I do roster, select rookie, and then edit, and the section where there his other pitches, I don't see how to add anymore pitches?


                  Could someone please tell me how to add a pitch to someone? Thanks
                  If I remember correctly, you press triangle while looking at the pitching attributes.

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                  • KBLover
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 12172

                    #10
                    Re: Rookie pitchers with only 3 pitches?

                    Originally posted by Slyone14
                    IM having issues in my franchise adding a pitch to a rookie, when I do roster, select rookie, and then edit, and the section where there his other pitches, I don't see how to add anymore pitches?


                    Could someone please tell me how to add a pitch to someone? Thanks

                    Is he already on a team in your franchise? Should just be on his pitch types page. Change the "None" into another pitch and then go to his pitch ratings and edit to your liking.

                    Am I misunderstanding what you mean?
                    "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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                    • Slyone14
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 1036

                      #11
                      Re: Rookie pitchers with only 3 pitches?

                      [QUOTE=KBLover;2047653741]Is he already on a team in your franchise? Should just be on his pitch types page. Change the "None" into another pitch and then go to his pitch ratings and edit to your liking.

                      Am I misunderstanding what you mean?[/QUOT


                      Nope, your exactly right Kb. My rookie has only three pitches and when I try to find his pitch ratings, there is no none option. It's odd.

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                      • Slyone14
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 1036

                        #12
                        Re: Rookie pitchers with only 3 pitches?

                        Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                        If I remember correctly, you press triangle while looking at the pitching attributes.
                        I'm going to try this when I get homxe from work later. Thanks

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