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  • sandmac
    Pro
    • Feb 2003
    • 535

    #1

    SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next level

    Been playing this fine title for over decade. Love this game and I'm here to offer improvement suggestions. It's come a long way but here are specific requests straight to the devs for in-game immersion improvement.


    PROBLEM #1:
    Simple. Time to get the camera optics correct: Accurate depth of field for each camera cutaway.

    This is something very few users will identify, but they know when it's wrong and as of now it's still not correct. I will say SCEA has improved this with last year's MLB '15 cutaways (defined as new shots of on-field players from new angles we see - ie: new side angles of batters and pitchers in '15 are very nice and have accurate optics) but it's still not quite there and the inconsistent optics really throws the visuals off. BTW, I lead teams in multimedia project delivery for a living so I know of what I speak here.

    The shots that are most of an issue is the pitcher and batter on 2B close ups. As a basic rule, the more in focus or closer you get to the object (in this case -person's face) the further out of focus the background it will be. Any MLB broadcast using any lens would have that background far out of focus as it's often 400 + feet behind the pitcher. In this game the wall/crowd/CF are still in focus and that's very off. See attachments.

    SOLUTION to #1: Apply the heavy blur filter to the background visuals behind the players when the camera is simulating a broadcast medium to extreme close up. It will make HUGE difference.

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    PROBLEM #2: Extremely repetitive commentary. Playing game to game, you literally hear the same comments every game just in a different order. Long been an issue and I'm not here to complain I'm here to offer solutions.

    SOLUTION #2: Simple. Player specific commentary. NBA 2K's commentary is well regarded as among the industry's finest and most immersive. The reason? They recorded player-specific commentary. In the 2K games, when play slows down (free throws) the commentators exchange a very brief comment on the player shooting. MAKES A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE. SCEA, please implement this same audio. When you have the boys back in the booth to record updated 2016 comments, give them PLAYER SPECIFIC comments that trigger when that player steps to the plate. ie: Matt: "Harper really had a breakout season in 2015" Steve: "Yeah he was a monster and the good news for fans is he's only tapping his potential..." ...etc. The game doesn't need more of the same updated statements for this year's release, the game needs PLAYER-SPECIFIC commentary to take the immersion to the next level.

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    Thanks for reading. Russell, welcome your thoughts. Please share with the team.
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  • jr86
    MVP
    • Jan 2009
    • 1728

    #2
    Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-wishlist.html

    And you didn't put this here because.........

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    • Belkbuzze
      Rookie
      • Jan 2014
      • 136

      #3
      Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

      Good ideas sandmac, dunno how feasible for mlb16 but definitely something that I wish could be looked into for 17.

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      • Clarke99
        Banned
        • Feb 2012
        • 462

        #4
        Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

        Just for those who forgot, as far as commentary goes, the lead guy who was in charge of it was let go last year and has since been replaced specifically for MLB 16. This could be lip service given to us as SCEA has done from time to time. However I'd hold off judgement until March.
        As for those wondering, it was stated during one of the twitch streams last year.

        As for not using the wishlist, I get it, some people believe they have a fresh new idea that hasn't been mentioned and want it to have its own thread. These two specific instances have been brought up previously and one like beating a dead horse.

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        • redsox4evur
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2013
          • 18169

          #5
          Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

          No Hey Devs threads.
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          • thaSLAB
            [Player 1]
            • Feb 2008
            • 4495

            #6
            Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

            Originally posted by Clarke99
            Just for those who forgot, as far as commentary goes, the lead guy who was in charge of it was let go last year and has since been replaced specifically for MLB 16. This could be lip service given to us as SCEA has done from time to time. However I'd hold off judgement until March.
            As for those wondering, it was stated during one of the twitch streams last year.
            I wouldn't say he was let go, but he has moved on from Sony SDS. He is now at EA.

            Although, this is technically a "Hey Dev" thread, he does make a valid point, in regards to broadcast camera DoF. IMO

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            • Gagnon39
              Windy City Sports Fan
              • Mar 2003
              • 8544

              #7
              Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

              Commentary will be repetitive no matter what. I don't see any solution to this in sports games to be honest.
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              • Clarke99
                Banned
                • Feb 2012
                • 462

                #8
                Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

                Originally posted by Gagnon39
                Commentary will be repetitive no matter what. I don't see any solution to this in sports games to be honest.
                To an extent sure, but 2k has shown it can be few and far between when it comes to repititiveness even in the last few intallments of 2k baseball with gary thorne and john kruk

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                • audbal
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 382

                  #9
                  Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

                  simply hire voice actors, much more time to record commentary. believe me, i know many and they are passionate about their work.

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                  • mlblover15
                    3X MLBTS Champion
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 4144

                    #10
                    Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

                    hiring voice actors would be great but would take away from the realism everyone expects from this game... some probably wont mind but those that are ever so hard core about their realism would throw a major fit over something like that being done...
                    "Baseball is life, without Baseball life itself ceases to exist." - Ken Sprague

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                    • Gagnon39
                      Windy City Sports Fan
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 8544

                      #11
                      Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

                      Originally posted by redsox4evur
                      No Hey Devs threads.
                      And yet, this is now two pages long... (And I guess I'm not helping by posting).
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                      • Impetuous65
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 1451

                        #12
                        Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

                        I always laugh when people champion NBA 2K commentary as this non repeatative commentary. Play My league and you will have your fill of NBA 2k commentary. They just have a little more energy but they are just as repeatative. Nothing special about NBA 2k's commentary, it's a myth.

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                        • Bobhead
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 4926

                          #13
                          Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

                          Originally posted by Impetuous65
                          I always laugh when people champion NBA 2K commentary as this non repeatative commentary. Play My league and you will have your fill of NBA 2k commentary. They just have a little more energy but they are just as repeatative. Nothing special about NBA 2k's commentary, it's a myth.
                          I don't think it's possible for any commentary to be "non-repetitive" (unless new lines are created literally every day or something. since eventually you will hear repeated lines.

                          But NBA2k's commentary is just better, hands down.

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                          • bronxbombers21325
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 3058

                            #14
                            Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

                            Originally posted by Clarke99
                            To an extent sure, but 2k has shown it can be few and far between when it comes to repititiveness even in the last few intallments of 2k baseball with gary thorne and john kruk
                            I've never played a sports game that I didn't find the commentary painful to listen to after only a few games. I'm sorry but NBA 2k is just as repetitive as any other sports title.

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                            • takki
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 643

                              #15
                              Re: SCEA: Here it is: TWO In-game immersion requests that can take '16 to the next le

                              Originally posted by bronxbombers21325
                              I've never played a sports game that I didn't find the commentary painful to listen to after only a few games. I'm sorry but NBA 2k is just as repetitive as any other sports title.
                              Isn't that your own problem? NBA 2k16 has some of the strongest commentary in sports gaming history.

                              It's impossible to make a sports game with strong dynamic commentary. Commentators in real life are reacting to what is happening while video games are spewing pre-recorded lines based on context. It's going to sound repetitive no matter what.

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