MLB: The Show 16 Strike Zone

[nemesis04]

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I think it's the devs only way to really get a more realistic zone in the game. We saw a few examples during the streams. One was an up and in pitch, in the zone, but called a ball and they had commentary lined to say "It's a strike, but you rarely get that call." So they are aware it's an issue, especially up in the zone, but I think the umpire personalities will help a bit. Hopefully most have the tendency to call high strikes balls instead of the other way around. I feel the data shows that umpires who call high strikes are in the minority.

That was one of the things I discussed with them was cutting down on high pitches that were technically within the rules "strike zone" but really needed to be called a ball more often than not.

[MrOldboy]

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That was one of the things I discussed with them was cutting down on high pitches that were technically within the rules "strike zone" but really needed to be called a ball more often than not.

Even if they do add in some wiggle-room on the four edges, do you think they could ever get away with some really egregious calls. So bad to where an umpire has to apologize.

[nemesis04]

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Even if they do add in some wiggle-room on the four edges, do you think they could ever get away with some really egregious calls. So bad to where an umpire has to apologize.

I am really hoping to see the wide strike in the game because it has been noticeably absent.

[Kevin82485]

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I think some are missing the point of my post. It isn't really about the new ump personalities in this year's game, it's really more about how if the strike zone is called with 100% accuracy, the pitch is not called a strike if it is on the border.

For instance, in MLB The Show, if 70% of the ball is outside the strike zone box that is overlayed on the screen, and 30% is in the strike zone, the pitch will always be called a ball. As I understand the rulebook, in actuality this should be called a strike because some portion of the ball was in the strike zone.

It's kind of like how in football, at the goalline, if even just the nose of the ball touches the white line, it's a touchdown. It's not required for the whole ball to cross the line to be a touchdown.

If I am completely wrong and talking out of my backside, I'll gladly stand corrected. This is just how I've always interpreted the strike zone.

[MrOldboy]

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I think some are missing the point of my post. It isn't really about the new ump personalities in this year's game, it's really more about how if the strike zone is called with 100% accuracy, the pitch is not called a strike if it is on the border.

For instance, in MLB The Show, if 70% of the ball is outside the strike zone box that is overlayed on the screen, and 30% is in the strike zone, the pitch will always be called a ball. As I understand the rulebook, in actuality this should be called a strike because some portion of the ball was in the strike zone.

It's kind of like how in football, at the goalline, if even just the nose of the ball touches the white line, it's a touchdown. It's not required for the whole ball to cross the line to be a touchdown.

If I am completely wrong and talking out of my backside, I'll gladly stand corrected. This is just how I've always interpreted the strike zone.

We got that, but the discussion turned to if the game would have more variation in the strike zone this year.

What you are talking about is with variable strike zone turned off you would want it to be a strike if any part of the ball is touching the zone. From what I can tell the game might not consider the ball a sphere in this case, but a point (X,Y,Z coordinates) which is the center of the ball model. So if that center point is outside the zone line then it is a ball, but the visual overlay of the ball looks like it is touching. That may be incorrect, but it is what appears to be what is happening. That would be the easiest way to determine a ball/strike to me. I do a lot of GIS work and often this is how we do to speed things up instead of creating a buffer around each point. We should in many cases due to GPS error or human error when taking points.

I agree that this is not what the rule book states, but I also would never play with variable strike zone off at this point so it's not a big deal to me personally.

Curiously in MLB 14 the pitch location didn't seem to match where the ball was. I made a thread about it at the time http://www.operationsports.com/forum...8&postcount=17

I just accepted it as part of how the game functions and tried to ignore it, but maybe I'll see if it still does this.

[Kevin82485]

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We got that, but the discussion turned to if the game would have more variation in the strike zone this year.

What you are talking about is with variable strike zone turned off you would want it to be a strike if any part of the ball is touching the zone. From what I can tell the game might not consider the ball a sphere in this case, but a point (X,Y,Z coordinates) which is the center of the ball model. So if that center point is outside the zone line then it is a ball, but the visual overlay of the ball looks like it is touching. That may be incorrect, but it is what appears to be what is happening. That would be the easiest way to determine a ball/strike to me. I do a lot of GIS work and often this is how we do to speed things up instead of creating a buffer around each point. We should in many cases due to GPS error or human error when taking points.

I agree that this is not what the rule book states, but I also would never play with variable strike zone off at this point so it's not a big deal to me personally.

Curiously in MLB 14 the pitch location didn't seem to match where the ball was. I made a thread about it at the time http://www.operationsports.com/forum...8&postcount=17

I just accepted it as part of how the game functions and tried to ignore it, but maybe I'll see if it still does this.

If this in fact how the strike zone is calculated in the game, then it seems like something that would be relatively easy to correct. Simply make the box bigger and have the absolute border of it invisible and have the graphical representation of the strike zone be smaller than the actual size of the box.

[kehlis]

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If this in fact how the strike zone is calculated in the game, then it seems like something that would be relatively easy to correct. Simply make the box bigger and have the absolute border of it invisible and have the graphical representation of the strike zone be smaller than the actual size of the box.

Unless I missed it you never answered the question as to what option you play with. If you play with variable umpire on then as previously noted it's a non issue.

[Kevin82485]

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Unless I missed it you never answered the question as to what option you play with. If you play with variable umpire on then as previously noted it's a non issue.

In my original post, I noted it was with balls and strikes called with 100% accuracy. So, with variable strike zone turned off. Sorry I should have maybe just originally said it was with variable strike zone off.