MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[Armor and Sword]

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I'm playing fantasy draft franchise. I traded Manny Machado and Jose Bautista for Bryce Harper. Is this a fair deal or did I trade too much? What do you guys think?

More than fair. Machado is an amazing young star (like Harper) and the other team is getting at least 1-2 years out of Joey Bats.

Nice trade.

[Bard]

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Trust me, I feel the same way about some Cubs guys (Baez) and it's hard to even grasp trading them for anything less than great return.. So I get it.

I think Swihart + Johnson + Chavis is a much better suggestion if Johnson is healthy. Chavis as a third guy/lottery ticket type on the end is a nice addition.

Just curious, who are your three "untouchables?" Moncada, Benintendi and ? Lol I'm not trying to debate if they're untouchable or not (because I don't think anybody is to an extent), just wanted your opinion.

Espinoza. And I agree nobody should be untouchable I just don't want them traded since I see them being stars.

Then I agree fully about Johnson, so Kopech fits great instead in that deal.

[Danpagnepapi]

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I'm playing fantasy draft franchise. I traded Manny Machado and Jose Bautista for Bryce Harper. Is this a fair deal or did I trade too much? What do you guys think?

Bautista + a couple of A prospects for Harper would've been better in my mind. Mind you I don't really know how the fantasy franchises work with farm systems. Do you just take the system or whatever team you are?

Machado is the best defensive 3rd baseman and could be one of if not the best defensive SS in the league if you decide to play him there. Offensively he's top 2 or 3 in the league at his position. Machado and Bautista might be more expensive to resign depending on if the game will have him command a $350mil+ deal like I think he will irl, but you would also have 2 top 5 players in their respective positions.

Take a look at my post in the last page about getting Pederson to the Astros if you can, it'd be much appreciated

[rovert22044]

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"Because it's Jose Altuve" isn't exact an irrefutable argument. He's a 4 win guy on a hot streak. He's a fantastic but not generational player.

There's no rule that says you can't just turn that into a 3 team trade and flip Puig for something.

I just feel that if Altuve was traded, not only would the city of Houston be turned upside down (so many Altuve fans), but I feel the team would lose that central player who keeps the team grounded.

If it was a 3-team deal that sent Puig away, I'd consider depending on the deal. Altuve being traded would open up 2B for Bregman, so that's a positive.

Out of curiosity, what kind of 3-team deal could you see happening? I might considering doing it in my blowoff franchise just to see Bregman at 2B for a season.

[Dirty_D_]

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Hey guys I know Machado isn't going anywhere for dimes and nickels but would they trade him for

Orioles Get

Matt Harvey
And 2 of my top prospects ?

Mets Get

Manny Machado

[pickle2002]

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Any of those except Vic, and any C of your choice honestly. Not totally realistic, but Marlins should go for it.

Alright thank you bard!

[Armor and Sword]

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Hey guys I know Machado isn't going anywhere for dimes and nickels but would they trade him for

Orioles Get

Matt Harvey
And 2 of my top prospects ?

Mets Get

Manny Machado

The Orioles are getting a top pitcher which they really need but what are the two top prospects and how soon are they major league ready. That is a huge key to the deal. I also think deGrom or Syndergaard would be more viable for such a great player like Machado if you want to make a real blockbuster.

But tell me the prospects. Positions/player type and ETA to the MLB.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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I just feel that if Altuve was traded, not only would the city of Houston be turned upside down (so many Altuve fans), but I feel the team would lose that central player who keeps the team grounded.

If it was a 3-team deal that sent Puig away, I'd consider depending on the deal. Altuve being traded would open up 2B for Bregman, so that's a positive.

Out of curiosity, what kind of 3-team deal could you see happening? I might considering doing it in my blowoff franchise just to see Bregman at 2B for a season.

You're talking about Altuve like he is Harper, Trout or Goldschmidt. Altuve is extremely good. But he is a 4-5 WAR player. He might hit 6 WAR in his career year, and you wouldn't trade him for an 18 year old phenom and an outfielder who has had as many 4+ WAR years as Altuve, and his sophomore season he had a higher WAR than Altuve has ever had in a season.

[Dirty_D_]

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The Orioles are getting a top pitcher which they really need but what are the two top prospects and how soon are they major league ready. That is a huge key to the deal. I also think deGrom or Syndergaard would be more viable for such a great player like Machado if you want to make a real blockbuster.

But tell me the prospects. Positions/player type and ETA to the MLB.

As prospects in the Mets system that are MLB ready is slim to non IMO, maybe

Matt Reynolds (middle infield 25 yr old low B that hits for average with a good glove )

Gavin Cecchini ( infield 22 yr old Mid B but hitting is questionable but is known for his defense )

Brandon Nimmo ( OF 23 yr old Mid B with upside but hasn't hit his stride but has average stick and glove with some upside but low upside in the power department )

Then there's a pile of prospects that are 3-4 years away IMO could be sooner like

Amed Rosario (SS 20 yr old High B)
Marcos Molina ( RHP 21 yr old Mid B)
Gabriel Ynoa (RHP 22 yr old Mid B )
Dominic Smith (1B 20 yr old low/mid B)

And not to mention I have a few names to throw in that have upside but are down trending

Juan Legares
Travis d'Arnaud
Wilmer Flores

Would giving up deGrom or Syndergaard help me send less to Baltimore or just make it that much more realistic ?

[Armor and Sword]

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As prospects in the Mets system that are MLB ready is slim to non IMO, maybe

Matt Reynolds (middle infield 25 yr old low B that hits for average with a good glove )

Gavin Cecchini ( infield 22 yr old Mid B but hitting is questionable but is known for his defense )

Brandon Nimmo ( OF 23 yr old Mid B with upside but hasn't hit his stride but has average stick and glove with some upside but low upside in the power department )

Then there's a pile of prospects that are 3-4 years away IMO could be sooner like

Amed Rosario (SS 20 yr old High B)
Marcos Molina ( RHP 21 yr old Mid B)
Gabriel Ynoa (RHP 22 yr old Mid B )
Dominic Smith (1B 20 yr old low/mid B)

And not to mention I have a few names to throw in that have upside but are down trending

Juan Legares
Travis d'Arnaud
Wilmer Flores

Would giving up deGrom or Syndergaard help me send less to Baltimore or just make it that much more realistic ?

Thor or deGrom straight up for Machado would be a fair deal. Prospects are not strong enough to accompany Harvey in my opinion.

[Dirty_D_]

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Thor or deGrom straight up for Machado would be a fair deal. Prospects are not strong enough to accompany Harvey in my opinion.

Thanks man.

Right now it may be deGrom heading to Baltimore let's see what's up at the all star break.

If I make the deal would Asdrubal Cabrera be worth anything ( not to Baltimore but anyone else ) ? Manny Machado will be my SS so I wouldn't need him ?

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Thor or deGrom straight up for Machado would be a fair deal. Prospects are not strong enough to accompany Harvey in my opinion.

Hot taek but I don't think deGrom is quite enough, it would need to be Thor.
deGrom is an injury risk which hurts his trade value.

[Cfranzo131]

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Hot taek but I don't think deGrom is quite enough, it would need to be Thor.
deGrom is an injury risk which hurts his trade value.

And the guy who throws 98mph+ for 7 innings isn't?
You could say every pitcher is an injury risk, not really sure how/why you labeled Degrom as an injury risk

[Dirty_D_]

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Hot taek but I don't think deGrom is quite enough, it would need to be Thor.
deGrom is an injury risk which hurts his trade value.

Are the prospects still to weak to pair with deGrom ? ( I don't know about injury )

Or would a Matt Havery and ( Wheeler/Matz ) would do ?

[GamecocksLaw17]

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And the guy who throws 98mph+ for 7 innings isn't?
You could say every pitcher is an injury risk, not really sure how/why you labeled Degrom as an injury risk

Well maybe because deGrom has had TJ and Thor has not? That seems like a decent reason. But an infielder with 2 seasons over 6 WAR is more valuable than a 27 year old who is about to turn 28 and has only had 1 season over 5 WAR. Thor is on an upward trajectory and we have probably already seen the best there is to see with deGrom, again this is just my take.

Also deGrom has seen his velocity drop, his SIERA and xFIP has raised and his k/9 has dropped 3 full points.