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  • Bunselpower32
    Pro
    • Jul 2012
    • 947

    #691
    Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

    If I see the pitcher hit one more time...seriously, this cannot continue.

    I think there needs to be more of an effect of the spin of the ball on line drives. It doesn't always happen, but it's pretty often that when a righty hits one into the gap, it will be more at the center fielder and then tail away and land in the gap. I don't see that very much at all. Also, that would help balls up the middle hitting the pitcher, because I've seen it a hundred times, players will rifle one up the middle but it will kinda tail around the pitcher because of how the ball was struck. Righties do this a lot. I've yet to see a ball that hooks toward the line, which is a pretty darn common hit.

    Overall, hit variation has been pretty bad. I'll fix it with sliders, but it's just a ton of hard hit balls right at guys. Very few grounder base hits, and zero seeing eye singles save for the occasional DD game on Rookie. I've seen very few flares, it's good to see some, but there probably should be more.

    Animations are hit or miss. Pitching motions need to be redone. A large number of reliever motions look like they were made 10 years ago. Weird arm angles and release points. The fielding animations are actually better, one or two aren't great, but hey. Hitting, there's this weird take thing (that I'm sure has been documented) where the player will snap from an open stance to his foot inward. It's weird.

    One more thing, has anyone else had any screen tearing? Because at the Rogers Centre the other day I was playing some DD, and Gregory Polanco is on the team. He was waggling the bat, and I looked up about 150 or so pixels from the top, and the top of the bat (that was over that 150 pixel line) was about a half a barrel's width behind the rest of the bat and Polanco. After that, I noticed it was happening elsewhere too.
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    • Beatles
      Banned
      • Jul 2014
      • 413

      #692
      Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

      I really hate how when I take an extra lead off of 2nd and then push R1 like a madman when I see the second baseman going to cover knowing the pitcher is trying to pick me off but my guy doesn't move.

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      • Steven78
        Banned
        • Apr 2013
        • 7240

        #693
        Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

        Originally posted by Beatles
        I really hate how when I take an extra lead off of 2nd and then push R1 like a madman when I see the second baseman going to cover knowing the pitcher is trying to pick me off but my guy doesn't move.
        Oh so maddening!!!

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        • bkrich83
          Has Been
          • Jul 2002
          • 71574

          #694
          Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

          Originally posted by Bunselpower32

          Overall, hit variation has been pretty bad. I'll fix it with sliders, but it's just a ton of hard hit balls right at guys. Very few grounder base hits, and zero seeing eye singles save for the occasional DD game on Rookie. I've seen very few flares, it's good to see some, but there probably should be more.
          I am not playing DD (I despise the card game modes for sports games), however for me hit variety has been a strength of this version.
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          • NEOPARADIGM
            Banned
            • Jul 2009
            • 2788

            #695
            Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

            Originally posted by bkrich83
            I am not playing DD (I despise the card game modes for sports games), however for me hit variety has been a strength of this version.
            Yeah hit variety is pretty great. Guys say it's improved every year (which I suppose has always been marginally true), but this year it's really, truly better. Best it's been, without question.

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            • Bunselpower32
              Pro
              • Jul 2012
              • 947

              #696
              Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

              Originally posted by NEOPARADIGM
              Yeah hit variety is pretty great. Guys say it's improved every year (which I suppose has always been marginally true), but this year it's really, truly better. Best it's been, without question.
              That’s so bizarre. It’s not like I’m not seeing different hits, it’s just they don’t occur often enough. I get probably over one out per inning of screaming liners right at guys. Again, sliders will fix this, and from what you guys are saying hopefully then I’ll start seeing some more variations.

              You don’t care where I sent this from.
              "The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws."

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              • SoxFan01605
                All Star
                • Jan 2008
                • 7982

                #697
                Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                Originally posted by Bunselpower32
                That’s so bizarre. It’s not like I’m not seeing different hits, it’s just they don’t occur often enough. I get probably over one out per inning of screaming liners right at guys. Again, sliders will fix this, and from what you guys are saying hopefully then I’ll start seeing some more variations.

                You don’t care where I sent this from.
                Yeah, the variety is there, but on default I think there are still too many line drives. Some of it depends on difficulty level and batting interface used as well. I know that on Zone I, personally, get the best variety (though, admittedly, that's at least in-part due to my slow reactions causing less square aiming with the PCI...lol).

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                • JoeT
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 141

                  #698
                  Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by Bunselpower32
                  I think there needs to be more of an effect of the spin of the ball on line drives. It doesn't always happen, but it's pretty often that when a righty hits one into the gap, it will be more at the center fielder and then tail away and land in the gap. I don't see that very much at all. Also, that would help balls up the middle hitting the pitcher, because I've seen it a hundred times, players will rifle one up the middle but it will kinda tail around the pitcher because of how the ball was struck. Righties do this a lot. I've yet to see a ball that hooks toward the line, which is a pretty darn common hit.

                  Overall, hit variation has been pretty bad. I'll fix it with sliders, but it's just a ton of hard hit balls right at guys. Very few grounder base hits, and zero seeing eye singles save for the occasional DD game on Rookie. I've seen very few flares, it's good to see some, but there probably should be more.
                  Originally posted by bkrich83
                  I am not playing DD (I despise the card game modes for sports games), however for me hit variety has been a strength of this version.
                  Originally posted by NEOPARADIGM
                  Yeah hit variety is pretty great. Guys say it's improved every year (which I suppose has always been marginally true), but this year it's really, truly better. Best it's been, without question.
                  I am also seeing a greater hit variety than ever before which is great. And just as great is that the ball goes exactly where I would expect it to go based on pitch, location and swing timing which wasn't always the case in older versions.

                  But on the other hand, I would have to agree with Bunselpower about the ball spin. While bat / ball physics have certainly taken another step forward this year, the ball doesn't seem to hook and slice as much as I would expect, or as much as it did in past versions. It doesn't bother me too much, but I have noticed it.

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                  • Bunselpower32
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 947

                    #699
                    Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by JoeT
                    I am also seeing a greater hit variety than ever before which is great. And just as great is that the ball goes exactly where I would expect it to go based on pitch, location and swing timing which wasn't always the case in older versions.

                    But on the other hand, I would have to agree with Bunselpower about the ball spin. While bat / ball physics have certainly taken another step forward this year, the ball doesn't seem to hook and slice as much as I would expect, or as much as it did in past versions. It doesn't bother me too much, but I have noticed it.
                    well, everyone is making me feel like a dummy, it must be me then!



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                    "The designated hitter rule is like letting someone else take Wilt Chamberlain's free throws."

                    - Rick Wise

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                    • JoeT
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 141

                      #700
                      Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                      I don't know if I should be posting this here in the 'Impressions' thread or if it would be better elsewhere, but I'll mention it here...

                      For a game I enjoy a great deal and I rate very highly, I've been long bothered by one certain play that's been the same in every edition. And that is how often hits into the corners end up being singles. I will happily concede that not every ball into the corner should be a double (obviously). There are many factors that determine it--batter speed, fielder speed, fielder positioning, how hard ball was hit, etc. But the bottom line is there are far, FAR too few doubles on these hits than there should be. In fact, I've even seen the really fast guys (the Dee Gordons, Billy Hamiltons, etc) get an occasional triple on these! Now you can try to mess around with sliders to try to make these into doubles, but that will just break something else, so that's not a solution. I think the problem is that outfielders get to the ball much quicker in the game than they do in reality. Watch any real life game and watch a ball into the corners and pay attention to where the hitter is when the outfielder gets to the ball. Now compare it to the game, and you'll see a noticeable difference. Even speedy hitters seem to get outpaced by their outfielder brethren in The Show. Also--a second reason--is that IRL, baseballs tend to bounce around in corners longer and more unpredictably than typically happens in the game.

                      Now I wouldn't call this a "bug", but I do wish the devs would take a look at it and figure out why this happens and how to fix it. If the fields are all authentic size, the players are rated for their speed, reactions and the like, this shouldn't be a constant problem. And I won't dramatize as some like to do around here and call it "game-breaking", but these plays are can be a very important type of play in a game (extra base hits vs singles) and the problem with this has detracted from the realism of the game for me for a long time and I just they would take a look and try to fix it.

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                      • bkrich83
                        Has Been
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71574

                        #701
                        Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by JoeT
                        I am also seeing a greater hit variety than ever before which is great. And just as great is that the ball goes exactly where I would expect it to go based on pitch, location and swing timing which wasn't always the case in older versions.



                        But on the other hand, I would have to agree with Bunselpower about the ball spin. While bat / ball physics have certainly taken another step forward this year, the ball doesn't seem to hook and slice as much as I would expect, or as much as it did in past versions. It doesn't bother me too much, but I have noticed it.


                        I am using pure analog for the first time this year. I will say I am noticing better hit variety there than when I use directional hitting. Now that's just my observation and it may simply be a placebo situation.
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                        • NEOPARADIGM
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 2788

                          #702
                          Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by Bunselpower32
                          well, everyone is making me feel like a dummy, it must be me then.
                          Lol, well, like I said in my last post, guys do make this claim every year, so ... maybe we're over-stating it a bit and will stop feeling this way after 50-100 games, especially as guys start to fall into certain motor-memory patterns at the plate. I do stand behind saying it's the best it's ever been though.
                          Last edited by NEOPARADIGM; 04-18-2016, 02:04 PM.

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                          • geisterhome
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 2101

                            #703
                            Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by bkrich83
                            I am not playing DD (I despise the card game modes for sports games), however for me hit variety has been a strength of this version.
                            I despise those modes too. High five bro!

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                            • the_future420
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3086

                              #704
                              Re: MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                              This game is awesome. I played a meaningless exhibition between the Padres and A's last night using the #3 pitchers for each team and I was on the edge of my seat the whole game. The stellar gameplay combined with SOTS (shout outs to Cujo and others) are making this one of my more enjoyable gaming experiences that I can remember. Haven't even started playing franchise yet and I've already put in a ton of hours into this game.
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                              • bkrich83
                                Has Been
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 71574

                                #705
                                MLB The Show 16 Has Officially Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by JoeT
                                I don't know if I should be posting this here in the 'Impressions' thread or if it would be better elsewhere, but I'll mention it here...



                                For a game I enjoy a great deal and I rate very highly, I've been long bothered by one certain play that's been the same in every edition. And that is how often hits into the corners end up being singles. I will happily concede that not every ball into the corner should be a double (obviously). There are many factors that determine it--batter speed, fielder speed, fielder positioning, how hard ball was hit, etc. But the bottom line is there are far, FAR too few doubles on these hits than there should be. In fact, I've even seen the really fast guys (the Dee Gordons, Billy Hamiltons, etc) get an occasional triple on these! Now you can try to mess around with sliders to try to make these into doubles, but that will just break something else, so that's not a solution. I think the problem is that outfielders get to the ball much quicker in the game than they do in reality. Watch any real life game and watch a ball into the corners and pay attention to where the hitter is when the outfielder gets to the ball. Now compare it to the game, and you'll see a noticeable difference. Even speedy hitters seem to get outpaced by their outfielder brethren in The Show. Also--a second reason--is that IRL, baseballs tend to bounce around in corners longer and more unpredictably than typically happens in the game.



                                Now I wouldn't call this a "bug", but I do wish the devs would take a look at it and figure out why this happens and how to fix it. If the fields are all authentic size, the players are rated for their speed, reactions and the like, this shouldn't be a constant problem. And I won't dramatize as some like to do around here and call it "game-breaking", but these plays are can be a very important type of play in a game (extra base hits vs singles) and the problem with this has detracted from the realism of the game for me for a long time and I just they would take a look and try to fix it.


                                I've seen more down the line doubles this year than in the past but there's merit to what you're saying.

                                I am not sure if the parks are too small, or the ball gets to the outfield too fast or if the OF's are too quick to the ball. Hell, it might be a combination of all of those. I believe it's better than its been but i also think you're on the money here.

                                I did have the holy grail of doubles last night. A ball directly over the OF's head that bounced off the base of the wall. That's the type of double that for me at least has been truly rare over the years.
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