Stuttering during gameplay?

[Tomba]

Re: Stuttering during gameplay?

Perhaps it would be useful for the users here to compile some tracking data on stuttering instances for the devs? Maybe by listing camera; park; time of day; season; mode? Any other variables I'm missing? Maybe Franchise mode crowd size even?

Nah, I think it just comes down toa simple fix that wouldnt sacrifce any of the graphical enhancements this year.

All they have to do is scale down the lighting for crowd textures. meaning scale down the reflections being so white and bright.

When things have such high detail(and this even happens when you crank up the sharpness on the tv) white gets introduced and that means light will reflect more causing a negative reaction to anything NOT white around it.

when this happens on tv this is just an eyesore but when it happens in a game engine FRAMERATES start being ALL over the place

[Craigsca]

Re: Stuttering during gameplay?

Perhaps it would be useful for the users here to compile some tracking data on stuttering instances for the devs? Maybe by listing camera; park; time of day; season; mode? Any other variables I'm missing? Maybe Franchise mode crowd size even?

YES, YES, YES.

If there is a problem, it's incumbent on the people experiencing those problems to be as granular as possible. The "official" bug on the Shownation lists cut scenes, outfield plays, replays and during gameplay where the pitch has "stuttered" using the wide angle camera at Citifield.

[NYGiants4Natic]

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Good idea. I will try a bunch of different cameras at different parks and report what I see later on. Is there any way that it's the type of TV you're playing on as well? I'm playing on a 55inch 4K TV, though I haven't had an issue when playing any other game including MLB 15.

The tv type has no bearing here. This is an in game issue but is not a game breaker for me but it could be for those sensitive to it.

The game pushes visuals each year and the results are going to cause judder and occasional stuttering in some spots

[hazelhood19]

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I'm always so paranoid when it comes to visuals, so reading the impressions thread really had me nervous.

However, I couldn't be happier with how the game looks and plays. I noticed jaggies like crazy last year, but this years game looks flawless. I also don't have any stuttering except for minimal hitchiness in some cutscenes that have always been there.

I really think tv settings are the root of the issue here.

[Tomba]

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The tv type has no bearing here. This is an in game issue but is not a game breaker for me but it could be for those sensitive to it.

The game pushes visuals each year and the results are going to cause judder and occasional stuttering in some spots

I use judder reduction and blur reduction on my tv and it works wonders. IF the game ran at a solid 30fps the use of judder and blur reduction would make it look 60fps as most other games on ps4 do if i use the motion interpolation.

Thats the trick. the game has to run at a solid framerate for judder and motion blur reduction to really work. if not you still get instances of weird artifact.

this game seems to "target" a certain frames per second area. like 40 upwards to 60. It fluctuates but is NEVER steady. Its 60 here then it not somewhere else. it might be "native 1080p but its really nowhere near locked at a specific framerate.

I'd also suggest removing stat overlays etc like the strikzone graphics and things like screen statistics because that adds to the clutter of the image...

[NYGiants4Natic]

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I'm always so paranoid when it comes to visuals, so reading the impressions thread really had me nervous.

However, I couldn't be happier with how the game looks and plays. I noticed jaggies like crazy last year, but this years game looks flawless. I also don't have any stuttering except for minimal hitchiness in some cutscenes that have always been there.

I really think tv settings are the root of the issue here.

What does a tv have to do here? A tv just shows you what is coming from the game. I never get how people attribute stuttering and frames being dropped to the tv they have.

[kaptainkarl76]

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So far I have not noticed fps problems except when there are the sweeping visuals that go across the screen..I haven't played in a stadium yet and only have done spring training so far..

[NYGiants4Natic]

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I use judder reduction and blur reduction on my tv and it works wonders. IF the game ran at a solid 30fps the use of judder and blur reduction would make it look 60fps as most other games on ps4 do if i use the motion interpolation.

Thats the trick. the game has to run at a solid framerate for judder and motion blur reduction to really work. if not you still get instances of weird artifact.

this game seems to "target" a certain frames per second area. like 40 upwards to 60. It fluctuates but is NEVER steady. Its 60 here then it not somewhere else. it might be "native 1080p but its really nowhere near locked at a specific framerate.

I'd also suggest removing stat overlays etc like the strikzone graphics and things like screen statistics because that adds to the clutter of the image...

I cannot game on any hdtv that does not use game mode. Blur Reduction and Juddger reduction causes latency in games. That option is not available in game mode and on my Samsung 4K the input lag is 22ms which is beyond incredible but removing game mode that allows me to use juddger and blur reduction puts input lag well over 100ms which to me is beyond unplayable

[hazelhood19]

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What does a tv have to do here? A tv just shows you what is coming from the game. I never get how people attribute stuttering and frames being dropped to the tv they have.

Not about what tv they have, but what settings they have. If someone isn't using game mode or pc mode they're more likely to see stuttering.

[Tomba]

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I cannot game on any hdtv that does not use game mode. Blur Reduction and Juddger reduction causes latency in games. That option is not available in game mode and on my Samsung 4K the input lag is 22ms which is beyond incredible but removing game mode that allows me to use juddger and blur reduction puts input lag well over 100ms which to me is beyond unplayable

Strange i get NO input lag maybe say what? 4oish something like that?

I too use my samsung without game mode since i LOVE the soap opera effect it has on video games it make consoles games look as if they are being played on pc(which i also game on high end)

[Tomba]

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Not about what tv they have, but what settings they have. If someone isn't using game mode or pc mode they're more likely to see stuttering.

no not the case at all. game mode and pc mode then just output what the game does or doesn't do natively.

The show 16 is not optimized that well

I'm not trying to argue any certain point.

But it has to be said.

IF sCEA fixed the lighting on the crowds so that it wouldnt use maybe say 50 percent of the new material lighting and then ALSO reduced the lighting on fencing(cuz there are now horrible shimmering effect/artifacts tyhere as well) then the game would look 100 times better.

This gets me REAL mad at that graphics guy who stops and pauses the game in the develper streams and cant notice this for himself. he should do better

[Will I Am]

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I'm with Tomba here. Would it be possible for scea to patch in a toggle to turn off/on some of the graphical effects that are causing any frame rate issues people are seeing?

[NYGiants4Natic]

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Not about what tv they have, but what settings they have. If someone isn't using game mode or pc mode they're more likely to see stuttering.

No that is not accurate. They will get input lag which is not what the issue is. There is some small stutters when hitting ball down third baseline or to third baseman and at times on line drives to center field. But not game breaker and most of the time if runs fine

[NYGiants4Natic]

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Strange i get NO input lag maybe say what? 4oish something like that?

I too use my samsung without game mode since i LOVE the soap opera effect it has on video games it make consoles games look as if they are being played on pc(which i also game on high end)

What tv model do you have? I will let you know the game mode input lag

my previous set in game mode had 44ms which to me was unplayable for online shooters

Decent for the show but my new set with 22ms is pin point accurate with my timing

[hazelhood19]

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I'm telling you guys. Check my post history. I am THE biggest graphics whore on this site. I see every graphical hiccup. 15 if I wasn't on game mode or pc mode stuttered in and out of gameplay.

In this years game not only is it gorgeous I see minor hiccups only during some batter walkups.