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  • Knight165
    *ll St*r
    • Feb 2003
    • 24964

    #61
    Re: Time to waive the white flag?

    Originally posted by KBLover
    I hope it wasn't over because the Germans didn't do that. That was the Japanese.
    I guess not a Belushi fan?

    M.K.
    Knight165
    All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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    • Ghost Of The Year
      Life's been good so far.
      • Mar 2014
      • 6351

      #62
      Re: Time to waive the white flag?

      Originally posted by Knight165
      I guess not a Belushi fan?

      M.K.
      Knight165
      As of this moment, KBL's on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION.
      T-BONE.

      Talking about things nobody cares.

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      • WhiteBunny
        Rookie
        • Oct 2014
        • 332

        #63
        Re: Time to waive the white flag?

        Originally posted by Burgess
        I have played this game every year. I play on AllStar with timed hitting. I use Armour and Swords sliders. Every year I have been challenged, but have been able to hit reasonably well. I have hit 4 homers in a game, but have also gone 4 games without a homer. I have got 17 hits in a game, but also been shut down in others. I have loved how realistic this game had played for me. However, something seems different this year - I simply can't hit. I have played around 10 games and the most hits I have got in a game is 6 with only 2 homers. The game looks great and I would love to play it. But I'm getting very frustrated with the results. Anyone having the same issues? Do I just need to play more? I'm seriously giving thoughts of waiving the white flag and going back to 2015.
        I play on All Star hitting, HOF pitching, default sliders, directional hitting with buttons. In my Spring Training with Cubs, one of the best hitting teams, i was something like 4-16. And only Rizzo and a bunch of guys were above the Mendoza line. Now i'm in the regular season, 4-3. I have 8-9 hits per game, but it's a short sample size.

        Here some impressions:

        - The swing/PCI feedback doesn't help at all, it's quite confusing cause it's static, it doesn't move. Now, i know the green/yellow/red theory, but at times it doesn't make sense. You get a perfect swing and you miss the ball. Well, a perfect timed swing is not a hit, i know. You can still get bad contact. So maybe it's a feedback problem: you see a perfect timed/green feedback, you miss the ball and you feel frustrated.

        - Now, i'm doing a lot of bat practice, bat control mode. With the same settings. With a good contact hitter, it's nearly impossible to get a gold medal. You see a lot of perfect/green swing and you tip the ball or foul it. It feels a lot random but, again, maybe it's a feedback problem.

        - I see a good number of hard hits. Maybe too many. And not a good hit variety, to be honest. Most of the time is hard contact, flyball, out. With some groundball to second base. But it's something related to directional hitting, i guess. Because if i switch with Zone, i usually see a lot more hit variety.

        - Using Guess Pitch is useful, especially with sluggers. I've hit a good number of HR's just guessing for a fastball up in the strikezone. It also helps to build your plate discipline and get more walks.

        I know those are very random feelings. It's super hard to tell you if something is wrong with the game or if it's you ( or me ) or if it's the slider set you're using. In your case, it's a short sample size to begin with. It's a new game and you can't know how many changes they've done, neither you can pretend to be good just because you was good in the past. For the same reason, it's a bad decision ( imho ) to modify immediatly the sliders: take your time to play with vanilla game, at least two weeks. Then and only then, search a good slider set if you feel the game is not what you're looking for.
        So, yes, sometimes i really feel something is wrong with directional hitting. Sometimes not. It's the feedback ? It's me ? It's the game ? I just hope some SCEA guy jump here with a good word for all of us.

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        • Panopticism
          Rookie
          • Oct 2014
          • 40

          #64
          Re: Time to waive the white flag?

          Only problem I have with hitting is that too many solid hits are directly at someone. This obviously happens all the time in baseball, but I'm seeing it at a frequency that doesn't represent reality very faithfully, and the statistics corroborate my observations. Not enough solid contact translating into base hits. Not enough shallow fly-balls dropping for singles. Not enough ground balls splitting the infielders. Small ball is very rare in my experience with the game so far. I'm hesitant to touch the fielding sliders, because it's not as though the AI fielders are defying the laws of physics... they just don't usually have to move very much to make the play.

          It's very easy to get into hitters counts and earn a good pitch to hit, but it doesn't amount to much if it's not over the fence. The AI gets a wide variety of base hits off of my pitchers, so it's quite possibly something I've just not figured out.

          Most of my runs come as solo home runs, or multi-run home runs when I've worked out walks or benefitted from errors or misplays just prior to hitting a home run.
          Last edited by Panopticism; 05-15-2016, 07:54 PM.

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          • spitoon
            Pro
            • Apr 2004
            • 926

            #65
            Re: Time to waive the white flag?

            Thanks to those that posted about moving the DD slider sensitivity to zero...I wasn't aware of how this worked.

            I always thought that DD would promote "mediocrity". Increasing difficulty when you were good, and decreasing it when you are not...if you can lock it in, that would be great.

            I decided to stick with it this year though. I maxed out at HOF on both pitching and hitting...a higher level that I never tried in previous versions of The Show.

            I've come back down to earth lately (lost 8 of 10)...and my level has dropped back to All Star. Maybe I'll lock it in there?

            As for the OP...I agree that you should stick with it. It's really a great game.

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            • BegBy
              Banned
              • Feb 2009
              • 1212

              #66
              Re: Time to waive the white flag?

              Originally posted by WhiteBunny
              I play on All Star hitting, HOF pitching, default sliders, directional hitting with buttons. In my Spring Training with Cubs, one of the best hitting teams, i was something like 4-16. And only Rizzo and a bunch of guys were above the Mendoza line. Now i'm in the regular season, 4-3. I have 8-9 hits per game, but it's a short sample size.

              Here some impressions:

              - The swing/PCI feedback doesn't help at all, it's quite confusing cause it's static, it doesn't move. Now, i know the green/yellow/red theory, but at times it doesn't make sense. You get a perfect swing and you miss the ball. Well, a perfect timed swing is not a hit, i know. You can still get bad contact. So maybe it's a feedback problem: you see a perfect timed/green feedback, you miss the ball and you feel frustrated.

              - Now, i'm doing a lot of bat practice, bat control mode. With the same settings. With a good contact hitter, it's nearly impossible to get a gold medal. You see a lot of perfect/green swing and you tip the ball or foul it. It feels a lot random but, again, maybe it's a feedback problem.

              - I see a good number of hard hits. Maybe too many. And not a good hit variety, to be honest. Most of the time is hard contact, flyball, out. With some groundball to second base. But it's something related to directional hitting, i guess. Because if i switch with Zone, i usually see a lot more hit variety.

              - Using Guess Pitch is useful, especially with sluggers. I've hit a good number of HR's just guessing for a fastball up in the strikezone. It also helps to build your plate discipline and get more walks.

              I know those are very random feelings. It's super hard to tell you if something is wrong with the game or if it's you ( or me ) or if it's the slider set you're using. In your case, it's a short sample size to begin with. It's a new game and you can't know how many changes they've done, neither you can pretend to be good just because you was good in the past. For the same reason, it's a bad decision ( imho ) to modify immediatly the sliders: take your time to play with vanilla game, at least two weeks. Then and only then, search a good slider set if you feel the game is not what you're looking for.
              So, yes, sometimes i really feel something is wrong with directional hitting. Sometimes not. It's the feedback ? It's me ? It's the game ? I just hope some SCEA guy jump here with a good word for all of us.

              This. So many millions of times, this.

              I get green PCI and good contact and drill laser beams right into gloves. Or I get fastballs right down the middle that barely go over the pitcher's head. I only get singles, usually 2 outs, and every 5-6 games I get a home run.

              I see so much variety from the cpu. From each and every one of their players because once they get one hit, it's an onslaught.

              I did try zone and had way better results but I refuse to play it. I don't like it and I don't think any mode of hitting or pitching should be better than the other. I know the pitching location variety and frequency of said pitches are way more organic and real feeling on classic, but I prefer more user input and use pulse. So, maybe zone is just by default better than directional/buttons. If it's the case, I am done for this year because it's just way too frustrating to average 4 hits a game and practically never being struck out, or hit any triples or doubles.

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              • bcruise
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2004
                • 23274

                #67
                Re: Time to waive the white flag?

                Originally posted by Knight165
                I guess not a Belushi fan?

                M.K.
                Knight165
                We're getting old.

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                • blackninja
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 23

                  #68
                  Re: Time to waive the white flag?

                  I use timing on all star and get fairly realistic numbers. In os franchise davis hit like 260 with 51 hr, jones roughly 265 or 270 with 24 hr. Machado was only player on my team that really destroyed it, 334 43 hr. Times where i would slump and hit alot of weak grounders or lazy fly balls but also hot streaks where guys smashed.

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