PCI placement

[Steven78]

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I start it where the ball comes out of the pitchers hand and follow it from there. Using catcher high cam.

[Steven78]

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Did you stick with it? How long before you got the hang of it?


I tried it again last night, but in Plate discipline. Didn't go so well. After that I tried Good at-bat and I just can't track the pitches. I hit a couple of doubles and dingers but that was when figured out where the pitcher most likely would put it.


I really want to be able to use Zone and eliminate the randomness of Directional hitting but so far it's not going well.

Sounds like you need to experiment with some different camera views.

[zman2392]

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Personally what I do is leave it center with my thumb of that joystick when there are no strikes. If there is a meatball down the center il swing... If not I am taking until strike 1. I have to leave my thumb off the joystick because I too have the problem of pulling down on the stick when swinging . Once I have one strike on me I will pick a pitch location (95% of the time high) and hold the PCI there before the pitch is even thrown. Most times I will not swing unless in this zone (sometimes I will find myself tracking here if it looks inviting). Thats my sort of "realistic" version of guess pitch. I am looking for a ball in one specific zone. Once I get to two strikes I start with PCI in center and react. This is the method that works for me. As long as I dont get swing happy (which happens far too oftern) I get realistic counts and walks so I like this method, but it definitely takes practice to track pitches.

[rollerpig79]

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Sounds like you need to experiment with some different camera views.

You're probably right. Right now I'm using MLB16 and I sit 8 ft away from a 37" TV. I'll give Catcher high a go!

Personally what I do is leave it center with my thumb of that joystick when there are no strikes. If there is a meatball down the center il swing... If not I am taking until strike 1. I have to leave my thumb off the joystick because I too have the problem of pulling down on the stick when swinging . Once I have one strike on me I will pick a pitch location (95% of the time high) and hold the PCI there before the pitch is even thrown. Most times I will not swing unless in this zone (sometimes I will find myself tracking here if it looks inviting). Thats my sort of "realistic" version of guess pitch. I am looking for a ball in one specific zone. Once I get to two strikes I start with PCI in center and react. This is the method that works for me. As long as I dont get swing happy (which happens far too oftern) I get realistic counts and walks so I like this method, but it definitely takes practice to track pitches.

That sounds pretty good! I will definitely try that tonight. At least it's something until we learn how to track pitches right? It's a bit of a shame because I was getting really good with my plate discpline when using Directional. I had a 10% walk rate and that's pretty good coming from a guy who used to swing at almost everything!


I spent many training points, too many in fact, on plate vision, contact and power just to see if that would remedy the problem with Directional. It did not except for the fact that every dinger is a no doubter.

[zman2392]

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You're probably right. Right now I'm using MLB16 and I sit 8 ft away from a 37" TV. I'll give Catcher high a go!


That sounds pretty good! I will definitely try that tonight. At least it's something until we learn how to track pitches right? It's a bit of a shame because I was getting really good with my plate discpline when using Directional. I had a 10% walk rate and that's pretty good coming from a guy who used to swing at almost everything!


I spent many training points, too many in fact, on plate vision, contact and power just to see if that would remedy the problem with Directional. It did not except for the fact that every dinger is a no doubter.

Yeah the nice thing about that system too is you get better at reading pitches and specific pitched that pitcher is throwing. Often times on 1 strike counts when I am aiming high I take something low and I am surprised its a ball! Helps me alot with my recognition for the rest of the game

[paxon]

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Yeah the nice thing about that system too is you get better at reading pitches and specific pitched that pitcher is throwing. Often times on 1 strike counts when I am aiming high I take something low and I am surprised its a ball! Helps me alot with my recognition for the rest of the game

I've noticed this, too. This is the first iteration of The Show I've played. I started out with directional and found myself swinging at everything. When I switched to zone I started really reading the pitch type, speed, and trajectory a lot better because I felt like I had to in order to keep the PCI on track. I find myself recognizing a pitcher's specific pitches a lot better. Some of that is just getting used to the game, but zone's made a big difference.

[Cito2009]

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View makes a big difference. I find any view where the pitcher is zoomed or looks closer is best. I use retro zoomed in and the top of the strikezone at the front of the pitchers hat or so.

Then with my PCI I keep it in the middle with it slightly down or slightly "waggleing" the PCI like a bat, for some reason it keeps my thumb engaged better. I try to watch the ball right out of the pitchers hand and react. If it's not a meatball on first pitch I try to just take the pitch. As the count changes I have to adapt of course. Look dead red if nothing else to stop swinging at bad pitches.

[zman2392]

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View makes a big difference. I find any view were the pitcher is zoomed or looks closer is best. I use retro zoomed in and the top of the strikezone at the front of the pitchers hat or so.

Then with my PCI I keep it in the middle with it slightly down or slightly "waggleing" the PCI like a bat, for some reason it keeps my thumb engaged better. I try to watch the ball right out of the pitchers hand and react. If it's not a meatball on first pitch I try to just take the pitch. As the count changes I have to adapt of course. Look dead red if nothing else to stop swinging at bad pitches.

Good point on the camera. I like how fisheye you can see the stadium better but couldn't hit to save my life with it. I now use a custom camera that just centers the fisheye so its no longer offset and I hit ALOT better.

[Kevin82485]

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When I play online, I start it wherever my hitting zone is blue and then react to the placement of the pitch. People throw to the cold zone the majority of the time.

[Sirbigspur]

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Here is a youtube video of me hitting back to back to back jacks and it shows how I go about zone hitting.

https://youtu.be/M1GRW_d1bns

[Smallville102001]

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Good point on the camera. I like how fisheye you can see the stadium better but couldn't hit to save my life with it. I now use a custom camera that just centers the fisheye so its no longer offset and I hit ALOT better.

I am doing something kind of like that. I am doing fisheye zoomed in some and lowered some. It is working while. I can see pitches better then with default fisheye but I can still see the baselines.

[rollerpig79]

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Yeah the nice thing about that system too is you get better at reading pitches and specific pitched that pitcher is throwing. Often times on 1 strike counts when I am aiming high I take something low and I am surprised its a ball! Helps me alot with my recognition for the rest of the game

I finally got it! Did just like you said and it went great. I think one mistake I made before was to react too early on pitches and that made me jerk the PCI. Now I went in with the mindset "don't do too much - take a walk".


In one game I faced a pitcher for the second time in one inning with the bases loaded and one out. He was very wild and all I thought was if I draw a walk I won't hit into a DP. Maybe not the best mindset when you're the cleanup hitter BUT: On a 2-0 count he threw a fastball right down the middle and I got a hold of that ball. A grand slam that went 455 feet into the windows in Minute Maid Park's left center field. So awesome. And it felt like I did it, not the randomness of Directional hitting. I drew two walks in the other games too so the patience is definitely there.


Another thing I did was to never guess a pitch type. Before, and I'm kinda ashamed to say it, I used to guess 4SFB in hitter's counts and if I got it, great. The problem with that is the tendency to swing as soon as you hear the blip. Now it was all location. And timing of course

[agentlaw13]

PCI placement

I actually turn the PCI off bc it seems to distract me a bit and I like a clean screen.

But I start out holding my PCI up just a bit in the upper/mid part of the strike zone and then adjust towards the pitch as it comes in.

[Ed_Farias]

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One thing I constantly struggle with is hitting the swing button a split second before I move the PCI. It's like my right hand thumb finger has a faster reaction time from my brain, haha. When this happens, obvioulsy the PCI doesn't move to where I want it to when I swing, because I have already swung.

Some times I really have to concentrate on making sure I move first and swing second. The muscle memory is getting better.

Also, like others have started, I took the fish eye camera and move it slightly down do it's more centered in the middle of the strike zone. Helps me with low pitches.

[zman2392]

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I finally got it! Did just like you said and it went great. I think one mistake I made before was to react too early on pitches and that made me jerk the PCI. Now I went in with the mindset "don't do too much - take a walk".


In one game I faced a pitcher for the second time in one inning with the bases loaded and one out. He was very wild and all I thought was if I draw a walk I won't hit into a DP. Maybe not the best mindset when you're the cleanup hitter BUT: On a 2-0 count he threw a fastball right down the middle and I got a hold of that ball. A grand slam that went 455 feet into the windows in Minute Maid Park's left center field. So awesome. And it felt like I did it, not the randomness of Directional hitting. I drew two walks in the other games too so the patience is definitely there.


Another thing I did was to never guess a pitch type. Before, and I'm kinda ashamed to say it, I used to guess 4SFB in hitter's counts and if I got it, great. The problem with that is the tendency to swing as soon as you hear the blip. Now it was all location. And timing of course

Awesome! Glad I could help! The best part of it too is sometimes with that strategy you have to adjust based on what the pitcher has. Nothing is more rewarding then getting destroyed by changeups but finally getting a hold of one by starting your PCI low on a 2-1 count! I find when I go back to directional hitting now I can not hit because I try to hit absolutely everything in the strike zone.