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  • Speedy
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    • Apr 2008
    • 16143

    #91
    Re: The National League & the DH

    Originally posted by OhioCub
    I've actually had a pretty awesome idea for the DH working in both leagues for awhile now but don't have the commish's phone # lol.

    My idea is this, both leagues have a DH BUT the DH is tied together with your starting pitcher. Once you pull your starting pitcher you're also pulling your DH so for the rest of the game you either you have to allow your relief pitchers to hit or pinch hit for them.

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    Ooooo...I like this idea.
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    • dickey1331
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      • Sep 2009
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      #92
      The National League & the DH

      I don't know why everyone is so against the DH. I'd imagine it helps players last longer. Players who can't field as well but can still hit can still play and pitchers don't have to worry about getting injured by hitting or base running.

      Is there any other league where the rules are that much different than the other league?
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      • countryboy
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        • Sep 2003
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        #93
        Re: The National League & the DH

        Originally posted by dickey1331
        I don't know why everyone is so against the DH. I'd imagine it helps players last longer. Players who can't field as well but can still hit can still play and pitchers don't have to worry about getting injured by hitting or base running.

        Is there any other league where the rules are that much different than the other league?
        I don't like the DH because I think it takes away from the strategy that comes with having to decide what to do with pitcher in certain situations, regarding when to pinch hit or when to leave him in the game and let him hit.

        I'm a National League guy. I think it presents a better brand of baseball that is more true to the sport in its Golden Days. I mean the American League was founded in 1901 and it wasn't until 1973 that they adopted the DH. So for 70 years they had the pitcher hit.

        Look I know the game advances, I mean some of the first rules allowed you tag runners out by hitting them with the baseball, but in my humble opinion the addition of the DH was not one of the better advancements of the game.
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        • orion523
          All Star
          • Aug 2007
          • 6709

          #94
          Re: The National League & the DH

          Originally posted by countryboy
          I don't like the DH because I think it takes away from the strategy that comes with having to decide what to do with pitcher in certain situations, regarding when to pinch hit or when to leave him in the game and let him hit.

          I'm a National League guy. I think it presents a better brand of baseball that is more true to the sport in its Golden Days. I mean the American League was founded in 1901 and it wasn't until 1973 that they adopted the DH. So for 70 years they had the pitcher hit.

          Look I know the game advances, I mean some of the first rules allowed you tag runners out by hitting them with the baseball, but in my humble opinion the addition of the DH was not one of the better advancements of the game.
          Don't forget this doozy, until 1901(NL) and 1903(AL) a foul ball wasn't considered a strike. So like you I get it, the game changes. The DH however is a different beast altogether, because it fundamentally changes so many things.

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          • dickey1331
            Everyday is Faceurary!
            • Sep 2009
            • 14285

            #95
            The National League & the DH

            I just don't see how you have different rules in baseball. Either both should have it or neither should.

            It's hard to relate to another sport but what if the NFC had 15 yards to get a first down vs the AFC having 10 yards? Would people be ok with that because of tradition or more strategy?
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            • Bullit
              Bacon is Better
              • Aug 2009
              • 5004

              #96
              Re: The National League & the DH

              Originally posted by dickey1331
              I just don't see how you have different rules in baseball. Either both should have it or neither should.

              It's hard to relate to another sport but what if the NFC had 15 years to get a first down vs the AFC having 10 yards? Would people be ok with that because of tradition or more strategy?
              Man I know now why I don't watch football. 15 years to get a first down! They say Baseball is slow????
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              • dickey1331
                Everyday is Faceurary!
                • Sep 2009
                • 14285

                #97
                Re: The National League & the DH

                Baseball is a business. Scoring sells tickets. With the DH you'll score more runs and be able to watch your favorite player play longer.

                I believe advanced baseball stats say hitting is better than fielding. You can overcome a bad fielder with good hitting. I would say statistically a AL team would beat a NL team because they have an extra good hitter that the NL team wouldn't usually have. Prince Fielder is probably a good example of this. He's a good hitter but do you really want to waste a 1B slot on him?
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                • dickey1331
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                  • Sep 2009
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                  #98
                  Re: The National League & the DH

                  Originally posted by Bullit
                  Man I know now why I don't watch football. 15 years to get a first down! They say Baseball is slow????

                  LOL whoops
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                  • Ghost Of The Year
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                    • Mar 2014
                    • 6343

                    #99
                    Re: The National League & the DH

                    Originally posted by dickey1331
                    Is there any other league where the rules are that much different than the other league?
                    NFL vs CFL.

                    CFL only gets 3 downs to make a first instead of 4.

                    CFL has a 55 yard line.

                    CFL has 12 players on a team instead of 11.

                    You can get a point for punting in the CFL.

                    I'd love it if the Blue Jays were part of a large Canadian contingent of baseball teams in their own, third league.
                    Them crazy Canadians would probaly come up with something off the wall, if left to their own devices.
                    I'd imagine something like 5 bases instead of 4.
                    A DF in addition to a DH. Designated Fielder, plays defense only, doesn't bat.
                    10 innings instead of 9.
                    If a pitcher can't get you out on a maximum of, say 12 pitches, the batter is automatically awarded 1st base.
                    And lastly, the coup de grace . Square baseballs.

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                    • dickey1331
                      Everyday is Faceurary!
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 14285

                      #100
                      Re: The National League & the DH

                      Originally posted by Ghost Of The Year
                      NFL vs CFL.

                      CFL only gets 3 downs to make a first instead of 4.

                      CFL has a 55 yard line.

                      CFL has 12 players on a team instead of 11.

                      You can get a point for punting in the CFL.

                      I'd love it if the Blue Jays were part of a large Canadian contingent of baseball teams in their own, third league.
                      Them crazy Canadians would probaly come up with something off the wall, if left to their own devices.
                      I'd imagine something like 5 bases instead of 4.
                      A DF in addition to a DH. Designated Fielder, plays defense only, doesn't bat.
                      10 innings instead of 9.
                      If a pitcher can't get you out on a maximum of, say 12 pitches, the batter is automatically awarded 1st base.
                      And lastly, the coup de grace . Square baseballs.


                      It would probably be like that baseketball movie.
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                      • bfindeisen
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 793

                        #101
                        Re: The National League & the DH

                        Originally posted by dickey1331
                        I just don't see how you have different rules in baseball. Either both should have it or neither should.

                        It's hard to relate to another sport but what if the NFC had 15 yards to get a first down vs the AFC having 10 yards? Would people be ok with that because of tradition or more strategy?
                        Because they're two different leagues. I love that aspect. Two different leagues playing the same sport, in different ways. Then when they play, we get to see their strengths and weakness match up.

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                        • bfindeisen
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 793

                          #102
                          Re: The National League & the DH

                          I am an AL fan and love the DH, but I also love that the NL doesn't have it. I happen to love this difference between the leagues. It adds great variety to the brand of ball being played.

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                          • coreyerb
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 88

                            #103
                            Re: The National League & the DH

                            I always play with DH on for both leagues, regardless of which league I'm playing as.

                            I'm an NL fan mostly but I prefer pitching decisions to be based on performance and fatigue more than a desire to score runs. I hate it when a pitcher's gone 6 strong innings with like 80 pitches and a manager pulls him for a pinch hitter because the score is close.

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                            • Kevin82485
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                              • Aug 2005
                              • 177

                              #104
                              Re: The National League & the DH

                              Originally posted by coreyerb
                              I always play with DH on for both leagues, regardless of which league I'm playing as.

                              I'm an NL fan mostly but I prefer pitching decisions to be based on performance and fatigue more than a desire to score runs. I hate it when a pitcher's gone 6 strong innings with like 80 pitches and a manager pulls him for a pinch hitter because the score is close.
                              This is on point. The sport needs to showcase it's best players, not some pinch hitter and 5 relief pitchers until the end of the game is over if the starter got pulled way too early.
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                              • canes21
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                                • Sep 2008
                                • 22898

                                #105
                                Re: The National League & the DH

                                Originally posted by Kevin82485
                                This is on point. The sport needs to showcase it's best players, not some pinch hitter and 5 relief pitchers until the end of the game is over if the starter got pulled way too early.
                                But what if those relief pitchers are some of baseball's best players?
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