The National League & the DH

[TattooedEvil]

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Completely wrong. It's not going to be up to Manfred.

then why has he openly said he has no intentions of it happening?

[HozAndMoose]

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then why has he openly said he has no intentions of it happening?

Show me. Back in January he said it could happen as early as 2017 when the next Cba negotiations are. Then he recanted that and said it was up to the owners and since the financials would change so much the NL owners aren't all that interested. Manfred doesn't get to make that call at all.

[TattooedEvil]

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Show me. Back in January he said it could happen as early as 2017 when the next Cba negotiations are. Then he recanted that and said it was up to the owners and since the financials would change so much the NL owners aren't all that interested. Manfred doesn't get to make that call at all.

i'm sorry i cant show u a visual. i literally watched him say its not happening anytime soon on MLB Network. regardless it has no meaning to u being a AL guy.

[TattooedEvil]

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i just hunted down a quick quote just for u ...... “I swear to God, I never said anything in the press conference that was in support of the DH,” said Manfred

[HozAndMoose]

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i just hunted down a quick quote just for u ...... “I swear to God, I never said anything in the press conference that was in support of the DH,” said Manfred

That's all fine and good. My main point still stands. Manfred has no control over it. He can like it or not like it all he wants. When it comes down to it the owners and players will be making the call.

[TattooedEvil]

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That's all fine and good. My main point still stands. Manfred has no control over it. He can like it or not like it all he wants. When it comes down to it the owners and players will be making the call.

it wont happen this CBA but hope all u want.

[ChavezAthletics]

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The so called "strategy" involved when managing a non-DH lineup is so overrated it's almost a joke. Requiring the pitcher to hit adds nothing to the game other than killing off rallies.

[TattooedEvil]

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The so called "strategy" involved when managing a non-DH lineup is so overrated it's almost a joke. Requiring the pitcher to hit adds nothing to the game other than killing off rallies.

not if this stud is in the lineup

[countryboy]

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The so called "strategy" involved when managing a non-DH lineup is so overrated it's almost a joke. Requiring the pitcher to hit adds nothing to the game other than killing off rallies.

You have a starting pitcher who has thrown 7 scoreless innings. Pitch count low and he has really got good stuff today, which is a good thing because your bullpen has been taxed the last few games and could really use a day off, or at least not be used extensively.

Bottom of the 7th you have bases loaded of a 0-0 game with 2 outs. Next batter up is your pitcher. What do you do? Do you pinch hit for him in hopes of capitalizing on this rally, since your bats have struggled all game to produce a run? If you do then you are having to rely on a tired bullpen to pitch at least two innings if not more. Do you leave him in there is hopes that you are able to strike a rally in the 8th or 9th, or at least get a run off of one swing of the bat?

To say there is no strategy when it comes to managing a NL team, is in itself a joke.

[HozAndMoose]

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it wont happen this CBA but hope all u want.

Where exactly was I hoping? I don't care what the NL does.

[orion523]

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The NL will most likely never, ever adopt the DH rule, and thank goodness for that. Nine players in the field, nine players bat, very simple, baseball as is was meant to be played.

[41_Tom_Seaver_Fan]

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1st thing I do (always!) is turn OFF the DH when starting a franchise, season, playoff or whatever it is I am starting.

Sorry, to get David Ortiz's bat, you should have to deal with him playing 1B. That's baseball, the way it SHOULD be played.

(Plus, I just heard Keith Hernandez saying he hopes it never happens in a broadcast...I think there are too may people who are STRONG fans of the "normal" game to ever have the DH in the NL....and this is from people IN the game, vets or managers, they just realize what a different game it is)

[SaltLakeBrave]

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I'm an avid baseball fan but why was the DH never allowed in the NL in the 1st place? How many years ago has this been?

I'm used to it now after all of these years but is the NL a different sport than the AL? I mean c'mone. This game is the same game no matter which league you play the game.

It would be like having no shot clock for NBA basketball for the Eastern Conference while keeping it for the Western Conference. 2 totally different rules for the same sport. I'm not saying I'm all for baseball changing the rules & giving the NL a DH. I am trying to make a comparison point though.

Rules do change in all sports especially with all of these NFL additional rule changes lately but I don't get why it was ever this way between the AL & NL anyhow. Anyone care to enlighten me? Thanks!

Until the year 2000, the National League and the American League were to separate leagues that both played Major League ball. They each had their own ball, their own umpires, their own presidents, and for the most part different strike zones. Now all that remains from the two separate leagues is the DH, and according to Commissioner Manfred, he nor the National League owners want to see the DH come to the National League. With that in mind I wouldn't expect to see the DH anytime soon in the NL.

[JPCaveman13]

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I remember a conversation that Leyland had with a reporter who asked which league he preferred to be a manager. Leyland said that he preferred the AL since he could "be an idiot and manage an AL team to success." All he would do would set his lineup and let it go, occasionally looking up to see how his pitcher was doing. Is he pitching well...let him go...oh, it's the 7th inning, get 7th inning guy in there, 8th inning guy should be warming up now. When he was in the NL, he said he had to actually think to do his job, trying to figure out if he should play it safe, risk a little for a potential return, or go all in on a risk that could backfire.

Personally, I am not a huge fan of the DH. To me, it seems that it's a cop out for some players to still play who wouldn't be out there on a regular basis. There's no weighing the good and bad of that player in regards to "he can drive in 100+ on the season but we could give up that many extra because of him in the field."

[ChavezAthletics]

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To say there is no strategy when it comes to managing a NL team, is in itself a joke.

Of course there is strategy involved, my argument is that it is overated. Double switches, are they really that complicated? Not even close. Nothing in this game is complicated, any manager would tell you that. It's generally the fans who like to think they are more sophisticated than other sports fans. Every time I hear some yahoo comparing baseball to a chess match I fall out of my chair laughing. This is coming from a lifelong baseball fan who follows exactly ZERO other sports.