I simulated 30 years in Franchise Mode to test progression. Here are the results.

[Benz87]

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Wow, this is definitely encouraging for long-term franchise value. Usually there is always something wrong from ridiculous pitcher ERA's to overall ratings being too inflated, this looks fairly stable across the board. Thanks for the work!

[Jr.]

Re: I simulated 30 years in Franchise Mode to test progression. Here are the results.

Great stuff, looks like I won't have to go through and edit potentials every season.

[TD_21]

Re: I simulated 30 years in Franchise Mode to test progression. Here are the results.

TD_21,
If you would either post or PM your spreadsheet I'd love to do some analysis (that is what I do all day anyway, this would be more interesting).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxOX5gQMlWBLWnNOcVp6SnVTVFU/view?usp=sharing

This is with default sliders I take it (most don't matter in sims, but starter/reliever stamina, manager hook, and injury do)? I'm guessing the innings are at least somewhat related to the excessive number of complete game/shutouts.

Thanks for the info!

Yes this is with default sliders. I might play around with those settings as well as reducing starter stamina attributes.

Just a question, what happens when you go past 2045, like does a message pop up if you try to simulate past that?

Nothing pops up, no. I just wanted to get to a point where the rosters were entirely populated by generated players and 30 years was an arbitrary cutoff.

Is the number of A & B prospects toned down any this year? That contributed the most to the souped up pitching staffs.

I noticed a lot less A potential guys being guaranteed to reach their full potential. In the year 2045 in this sim, there are two 99 batters and two pitchers above 97. I think SDS did a really nice job with the progression this year and making sure generated players fit into the universe.

[midsizegorilla]

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TD_21,

First, this is fantastic. I created an account just to reply to this post and let you know how awesome this is.

Now a question - did you notice through the 30 years if certain teams became good or bad? Currently the Cubs and Dodgers look like they should win a few WS in the next several years and that has happened in my franchise modes, but when you sim really far into the future were you seeing different teams become dominant or becoming cellar dwellers?

Thanks for doing this!!

[TD_21]

Re: I simulated 30 years in Franchise Mode to test progression. Here are the results.

TD_21,

First, this is fantastic. I created an account just to reply to this post and let you know how awesome this is.

Now a question - did you notice through the 30 years if certain teams became good or bad? Currently the Cubs and Dodgers look like they should win a few WS in the next several years and that has happened in my franchise modes, but when you sim really far into the future were you seeing different teams become dominant or becoming cellar dwellers?

Thanks for doing this!!

Welcome and thanks! Yeah there have been periods where each team has been successful and periods where each team has been bad. For example, the Cardinals and Cubs were really good during the 10s and 20s but since the late 30s they have been middling. Baltimore has won 2 World Series and they've lost 100 games each of the past two years.

I wasn't paying too much attention to who won the World Series but I seem to remember the Yankees winning two or three, the Blue Jays winning back-to-back, and I know the Mariners and A's each won one.

But to fully answer your question teams have had strong years, followed by middling years, followed by rebuilding years, followed by strong years again. It doesn't feel like there are constant super teams.

[bigmike0077]

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This is awesome, i just have a question about budgets, are they still overly inflated like some people have been saying? does it really affect anything moving forward in franchise, other than the fact that they are extremely high?

[TD_21]

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This is awesome, i just have a question about budgets, are they still overly inflated like some people have been saying? does it really affect anything moving forward in franchise, other than the fact that they are extremely high?

Budgets aren't bad. Phillies are the lowest at 101.22 million and Giants are the highest at 188.86. In terms of payroll the Giants and Blue Jays are highest at 183 million and 174 million, respectively, while the lowest are Oakland at 55 million and Arizona at 71 million.

[bigbrimac]

Re: I simulated 30 years in Franchise Mode to test progression. Here are the results.

Great information. Thanks for sharing.

[JaFFiTh]

Re: I simulated 30 years in Franchise Mode to test progression. Here are the results.

Looking good. As for SP'S IP, I did reduce few teams stamina. Had few at like low 50's and still managed to hit 200 IP. So yeah I don't think it affects the sim for some strange reason. I've seen some in mid 175-190 but some quite over 200 so I have no idea lol.

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[bigmike0077]

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Budgets aren't bad. Phillies are the lowest at 101.22 million and Giants are the highest at 188.86. In terms of payroll the Giants and Blue Jays are highest at 183 million and 174 million, respectively, while the lowest are Oakland at 55 million and Arizona at 71 million.

and it stays relatively balanced like this through the 30 year sim, or did it get out of control?

Also in terms of SP's and innings pitched. Was there any injuries? i remember in 15 i often had some of my pitchers get injured

[ItAllFades]

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I never get more than 3 or 4 years into a Franchise every year, anyway. So progression this far ahead was never an issue for me to begin with. I play as all 30 teams, and I don't just mean controlling their roster. I play games for everyone, so I would say a single season takes me a few months to complete.

[Dynasty Legend 99]

Re: I simulated 30 years in Franchise Mode to test progression. Here are the results.

I never get more than 3 or 4 years into a Franchise every year, anyway. So progression this far ahead was never an issue for me to begin with. I play as all 30 teams, and I don't just mean controlling their roster. I play games for everyone, so I would say a single season takes me a few months to complete.

You play 162 games for all 30 teams and that takes you just a couple months?

[Smallville102001]

Re: I simulated 30 years in Franchise Mode to test progression. Here are the results.

and it stays relatively balanced like this through the 30 year sim, or did it get out of control?

Also in terms of SP's and innings pitched. Was there any injuries? i remember in 15 i often had some of my pitchers get injured

I was thinking the same thing about injuries and SP that is a big key. If pitchers didn't get hurt you would see a lot more guys with 200 innings in a season in real life. If a SP stays healthy and makes all 32-33 starts in a season and averages 6 innings per start that gets you to 192-198 innings. So if you are able to do that and average just over 6 innings a start you can get to 200 and really 6 innings a start is not that big of a deal. I would say a lot of guys can do 6 innings a start. Now 7 that is another story. Now if a pitcher missed just like 1 or 2 games they could end up in the high 100's for innings pitched. You have 5 starters a team times 30 teams for 150 starting pitchers in MLB. It would be interesting to know how many of those pitchers on average make say 30+ starts and how many make say 25-29 etc in real life and how that compares to the show when you sim a season.

[ItAllFades]

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You play 162 games for all 30 teams and that takes you just a couple months?

No, I don't play all 162 for every team. I just meant that I play games during the season for every team. And minor league games, as well. My seasons progress slowly because of it, but I enjoy that more than blasting through 30 seasons and having a bunch of fake players.

Something I do a lot is start a game, and sim to the 7th inning and then finish the game, regardless of what the score is. That way I can either try and hold a lead, or try to make a late innings comeback.

[sccavs64]

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Not gonna lie, I was scared to open this thread. Was expecting the worst and hoping for the best. These numbers look great! Thanks TD_21 for doing this and for sharing your results.