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  • Aviator87AC
    Rookie
    • Oct 2012
    • 389

    #46
    Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

    Originally posted by countryboy
    Zone works just fine for me and I play on HOF default. I get great hit variety.

    Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean that it doesn't work for anyone else. It also doesn't mean that those people are playing on lower difficulties or defending it just because they are able to use something that you don't.
    lol it doesn't work for anyone else, people using zone are the minority this year. Read the replies here and on SCE's Facebook - gobs of people saying the same thing. You are confusing individual challenge with simulation baseball.
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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52701

      #47
      Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

      Originally posted by Aviator87AC
      lol it doesn't work for anyone else, people using zone are the minority this year. Read the replies here and on SCE's Facebook - gobs of people saying the same thing. You are confusing individual challenge with simulation baseball.
      Yeah that is what I'm doing. And I read thru this thread, a fair amount of people disagreed with you and your thoughts on zone and even offered tips on how to help. And just because other people agree with your opinion, once again, doesn't mean that they are right and those who use zone are wrong. Just like using zone doesn't make you right over those using directional. It just means there are people who choose to play the game different ways and find a better "simulation" of the game using one hitting method over the other.

      But I get this thread its either everyone agrees with your opinion or they are wrong.
      Last edited by countryboy; 05-05-2016, 02:59 PM.
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      • Aviator87AC
        Rookie
        • Oct 2012
        • 389

        #48
        Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

        You probably throw gobs of TD's with Carr in Madden too and think it's fine.
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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52701

          #49
          Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

          Originally posted by Aviator87AC
          You probably throw gobs of TD's with Carr in Madden too and think it's fine.
          I don't play Madden
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          • sdatkins
            Rookie
            • Apr 2016
            • 60

            #50
            Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

            Originally posted by Aviator87AC
            lol it doesn't work for anyone else, people using zone are the minority this year. Read the replies here and on SCE's Facebook - gobs of people saying the same thing. You are confusing individual challenge with simulation baseball.
            I used directional hitting last year and loved it, felt like I could influence contact to where I wanted, felt like I had power when I was up in the count 3-1 or 3-0. This year directional was awful for me. I would get up 3-1 or 3-0 get a pitch down the middle or up in the zone like I was looking for, would get good swing timing and pop up or hit a lazy fly 75% of the time. So I tried zone for the first time and it has improved this game immensely for me. I have good hit variety (yes I still hit a lot of deep fly balls and line outs but that's okay) and have had good success playing on all star. The fact that you continue to say zone is "broken" this year is not the case. It may be different from the last couple years but I think it is much better than directional this year and I was a big proponent for directional last year.

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            • eric7064
              MVP
              • Jan 2010
              • 1151

              #51
              Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

              All I've used for years is zone and analog. No problems here I notice you just actually have to get the Bal in the zone this year.

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              • KBLover
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2009
                • 12172

                #52
                Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

                Originally posted by Aviator87AC
                lol it doesn't work for anyone else, people using zone are the minority this year. Read the replies here and on SCE's Facebook - gobs of people saying the same thing. You are confusing individual challenge with simulation baseball.
                Because minority = wrong and playing the game "unsim" and getting "unsim" results?

                I'm a pro-Directional person just like I was a pro-Timing person. They remain my favorite interfaces and don't really feel anything different between Directional now and last year.

                But there's no "one interface to rule them all" - just the one(s) that is/are best for YOU.

                And the Carr example - "sim" is not just a one of player coming close to his irl stats, it's taking all the variables into account and creating a plausible result. So, given the right environment, Carr could throw a lot of TDs.

                Just because someone gets a lot out of him doesn't necessarily make it unrealistic or unsim. Depends on the variables and context.
                Last edited by KBLover; 05-05-2016, 03:29 PM.
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                • Aviator87AC
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 389

                  #53
                  Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

                  Yeah, I was mostly picking on him for being a Raiders' fan.

                  I'm still of the opinion that zone relies too heavily on touch and too lightly on player stats. In fact, from everything I've read so far, I'm going to say that's the verdict.

                  Zone might work for some, but for many it doesn't. For me it worked up until HoF in MLB when the game mechanics fall apart (for reasons already stated many posts ago).
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                  • redsfan4life
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 2763

                    #54
                    Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

                    I don't know many that use anything but zone.

                    It really comes down to what the person enjoys most after all.
                    Last edited by redsfan4life; 05-05-2016, 06:24 PM.
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                    • p00p1
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 987

                      #55
                      Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

                      Originally posted by Aviator87AC
                      You probably throw gobs of TD's with Carr in Madden too and think it's fine.
                      Carr threw 21 as a rookie and 32 last year (4 less than the league leader).
                      Last edited by p00p1; 05-05-2016, 07:11 PM.

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                      • raneman85
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 831

                        #56
                        Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

                        I would like to welcome those to the minority group, those that use zone and analog. It's more challenging and feels more like baseball. We will be having 12 step support meetings every Wednesday at 7 PM.
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                        • kac
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 530

                          #57
                          Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

                          Originally posted by sbmnky
                          What are your sliders set to - I'm assuming contact, power, timing, and solid hits would contribute overall to what you're describing? Note: Not trying to turn this into a slider discussion.

                          And, have you tested this on other difficulties? The reason I ask about difficulty is that I see (at least I think so) more hit variety on AS+.
                          I was going to post the same thing I'm on allstar + and see more hit variety so i kept it there.

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                          • WhiteBunny
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 332

                            #58
                            Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

                            Originally posted by Aviator87AC
                            lol it doesn't work for anyone else, people using zone are the minority this year. Read the replies here and on SCE's Facebook - gobs of people saying the same thing. You are confusing individual challenge with simulation baseball.

                            Zone is the way to go if you want a more skill based game. Once you master it, you can really hit the ball a lot more than Directional. Try a practice session, bat control, with Directional ( All Star or more ). Than try with Zone.

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                            • Bullit
                              Bacon is Better
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 5004

                              #59
                              Re: Zone hitting a disaster - question about directional

                              Ok this has degraded into who plays the game the right way. Those that agree with me do and those that don't are wrong. This is happening on both sides of the argument and has nothing to do with the original post. It is done.
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