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  • lumberjake
    Rookie
    • Mar 2012
    • 57

    #1

    Franchise drafting/scouting question.

    Quick question that I didn't see answered anywhere so my apologies is if it was, but I was curious about something. I heavily play franchise mode and enjoy building my teams from the draft up. I skipped out on The Show 15 because 14 had a giant problem with the drafting to me. I would be able to land A potential guys in all rounds of the draft every year. After year 5 in my franchise I'd basically have 20 A potential players while the CPU and other teams basically had none. Has anyone gone deep into franchise mode and seen if it's a bit more balanced?

    I got to the draft in my first year, as the A's so I had the 4th overall pick where I netted a 99 potential overall catcher. In rounds 3-5 I landed 87, 85, and 89 potential pitchers. I went and looked at the computers drafts and it was full of 70's and it has more worried there won't be enough balance.
  • bigsteve15
    Rookie
    • Aug 2012
    • 123

    #2
    Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

    I believe there is a thread on here where a poster mentions that it is a lot more balanced this year and that when simmed into the future the SP's aren't stacked like they were last year. I'm not sure how good of a job the CPU does at drafting good players in the first few rounds so I may draft for them to fill needs and get high potential players so that it is balanced in the future.
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    • consecutive27
      Rookie
      • Apr 2016
      • 119

      #3
      Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

      Wow, that's one hell of a draft class. I am nearing the end of my 4th season and I have not had any that good. The highest pick I have had was the 17th though. I have averaged around 3 B potential players in the draft per year (one year I did better because I had two compensation picks). These B potential players usually have potential in the lower 80's and I am normally getting them in rounds 1-3. I have only drafted one A potential player (it was a 90) and it was with my pick 17 in the first round. I have not checked the CPU draft picks. I was assuming they were reasonably good because every draft they take a few of the guys that I scouted fully or near fully who I really wanted and I am sure would have been at least B potential. I have done all of my scouting manually.

      There are two threads that I have seen where they did 30 year sims, looking at stats, some ratings, etc., and the results looked really good to me. I don't think they looked much at draft classes specifically though. It did look like pitcher ratings league wide are more stable this year so you probably will not see rotations full of 90ish guys. It looked like the amount of position players rated 90 and above was relatively stable too. All of this inspired me to go more deeply into franchise mode this year and so far so good. I will keep more of an eye on other teams' draft picks and league wide talent distribution going forward.

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      • IUThor40
        Rookie
        • Jul 2006
        • 173

        #4
        Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

        Originally posted by lumberjake
        Quick question that I didn't see answered anywhere so my apologies is if it was, but I was curious about something. I heavily play franchise mode and enjoy building my teams from the draft up. I skipped out on The Show 15 because 14 had a giant problem with the drafting to me. I would be able to land A potential guys in all rounds of the draft every year. After year 5 in my franchise I'd basically have 20 A potential players while the CPU and other teams basically had none. Has anyone gone deep into franchise mode and seen if it's a bit more balanced?

        I got to the draft in my first year, as the A's so I had the 4th overall pick where I netted a 99 potential overall catcher. In rounds 3-5 I landed 87, 85, and 89 potential pitchers. I went and looked at the computers drafts and it was full of 70's and it has more worried there won't be enough balance.
        I've been messing around with a franchise until the Hybrid rosters drop. So far, I've seen really promising results from the draft through 4 seasons. It really seems like it adheres to a bell curve. I see maybe 5-6 "A" Potential guys overall, a good amount of "B" types, but the majority are "C" and lower. I think it sets up very well.
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        • Finn
          Rookie
          • Oct 2010
          • 328

          #5
          Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

          For those of you who are many more seasons ahead of myself have you scouted any Canadians yet? I don't seem to have any pop up when scouting international markets, plenty from the Netherlands though. Albeit I have two concurrent seasons both only in year one to judge off of.

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          • KomicJ
            Pro
            • Aug 2006
            • 625

            #6
            Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

            Originally posted by lumberjake
            Quick question that I didn't see answered anywhere so my apologies is if it was, but I was curious about something. I heavily play franchise mode and enjoy building my teams from the draft up. I skipped out on The Show 15 because 14 had a giant problem with the drafting to me. I would be able to land A potential guys in all rounds of the draft every year. After year 5 in my franchise I'd basically have 20 A potential players while the CPU and other teams basically had none. Has anyone gone deep into franchise mode and seen if it's a bit more balanced?

            I got to the draft in my first year, as the A's so I had the 4th overall pick where I netted a 99 potential overall catcher. In rounds 3-5 I landed 87, 85, and 89 potential pitchers. I went and looked at the computers drafts and it was full of 70's and it has more worried there won't be enough balance.
            You need to share that scouting strategy of yours, because I'm not sure I get how to scout properly...

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            • consecutive27
              Rookie
              • Apr 2016
              • 119

              #7
              Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

              One thing I have found so far is that it does not seem to be worth it to draft someone unless you have their accuracy somewhat in the green. Until it is green, there is a good bit of variability. Near the end of drafts it might be worth it to take a chance on someone you have scouted very little, but that is the only time in my opinion. The key for me is scouting enough decent players so I am not guessing until the last round or two.

              I usually discover all positions, but not in all regions. I go by the scouts' regions as much as possible, but I am not tied to it. For position players I tend to scout for power or contact plus one defensive trait such as fielding or arm strength. Fielding more for infielders, arm strength more for outfielders. When discovering pitchers I pretty much always look for velocity because it cannot be improved by training or performance, starters almost always have acceptable stamina ratings in my experience. After I discover players from each position from one or two regions I begin scouting individual players sometime in mid to late April. I may change scouts at this point to get the ones with the best efficiency rating.

              Scouting can be kind of tedious, but also exciting. I am interested in hearing how other people do it, and how that is working for them.

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              • deadlocked
                Rookie
                • Apr 2016
                • 155

                #8
                Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

                Maybe I've done it wrong but all the good prospects I found were Pitchers. I had it on auto scout. Doesn't matter now though the game is so broken and the cheese so real I'm trading it in. First MLB The Show game and I'm likely not coming back. At least with FIFA cheese you can feel it drawing in and can counteract it.


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                • kenp86
                  MVP
                  • May 2008
                  • 2979

                  #9
                  Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

                  I keep mine on auto scout. I have good success and some bad picks. I havnt seen to many big time prospects late. Albeit I'm just starting my second season. In my 6 team control offline franchise, my best picks were a CL for Boston in the first round A potential with 90 overall potential and with Atlanta I took a 2B in the second round who was a B potential player who started out 81 overall. After that, bunch of B and C prospect
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                  • sccavs64
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 587

                    #10
                    Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

                    Originally posted by lumberjake
                    Quick question that I didn't see answered anywhere so my apologies is if it was, but I was curious about something. I heavily play franchise mode and enjoy building my teams from the draft up. I skipped out on The Show 15 because 14 had a giant problem with the drafting to me. I would be able to land A potential guys in all rounds of the draft every year. After year 5 in my franchise I'd basically have 20 A potential players while the CPU and other teams basically had none. Has anyone gone deep into franchise mode and seen if it's a bit more balanced?

                    I got to the draft in my first year, as the A's so I had the 4th overall pick where I netted a 99 potential overall catcher. In rounds 3-5 I landed 87, 85, and 89 potential pitchers. I went and looked at the computers drafts and it was full of 70's and it has more worried there won't be enough balance.

                    There are still some issues IMO but it's definitely more balanced out than last year, no question about it. I've even caught myself a few times cursing out the TV because a CPU team drafted a prospect I found with great late-round value, which I don't remember seeing in previous versions

                    I think the fact that potentials change over the course of seasons helps the balance. I'm in 2019 with the Phillies and there's only 1 drafted prospect who is under 25 years old with a 90+ overall and he's a SP on my team, but his overall is inflated due to having a BB/9 rating of 99, which has no effect on everything since I play all my games. His overall should really be an 85 or so.

                    The CPU still has issues drafting in later rounds, but for the most part, their rounds 1-3 are full of solid picks. I don't ever see studs being available in rounds 5-7 as frequently as last year. Last year was so ridiculous, you could find a All-Star caliber player in round 7 with your eyes closed.
                    Last edited by sccavs64; 05-17-2016, 01:52 PM.

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                    • consecutive27
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 119

                      #11
                      Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

                      Originally posted by Finn
                      For those of you who are many more seasons ahead of myself have you scouted any Canadians yet? I don't seem to have any pop up when scouting international markets, plenty from the Netherlands though. Albeit I have two concurrent seasons both only in year one to judge off of.
                      I drafted a Canadian in the first round one year, solid player too. I am pretty sure I have seen a few others, but that one I am sure of.

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                      • NDAlum
                        ND
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 11453

                        #12
                        Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

                        Here are the results from rounds 1-3 of my first draft. I am the Twins at #15 in round 1.

                        https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

                        I don't feel like it's too easy at all. I snagged a stud with my first pick but it was luck. The 2nd round catcher has a low ceiling but is a guy who can play soon.

                        I felt it was pretty balanced and I don't feel I dominated the league. My #15 pick made my draft, period. I took the highest OVR guy in the draft, so that felt good. He wasn't scouted on my screen at all. It was the small sliver of red to indicate unscouted.

                        My guys were...

                        OVR & POT

                        75 88 - Projected #1-2 SP
                        71 78 - Low avg power hitting C with avg D skills
                        46 83 - 22 yr old 1B who is rated too low to be anything other than career MiLB guy
                        51 81 - 22 yr old 2B who has an outside shot to be a guy in mid-late 20's
                        62 75 - 22 yr old LHP who could be a pen guy if his atts pan out
                        50 70 - 22 yr old C who probably won't be anything other than a MiLB guy
                        55 68 - MiLB arm at best

                        The blue chip guys all go first as they should. Then it's a crap shoot man.
                        Last edited by NDAlum; 05-18-2016, 07:43 AM.
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                        • sccavs64
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 587

                          #13
                          Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

                          Originally posted by NDAlum

                          The blue chip guys all go first as they should. Then it's a crap shoot man.

                          Agreed ^^ Since the overall ratings for their attributes are correct regardless if you scout them or not, you pretty much just draft players with high overalls and hope they have good potentials as well since you don't have time to scout all the players.

                          Really wish they would allow you to start scouting in spring training, an extra 30 days of scouting would be super helpful.

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                          • IUThor40
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 173

                            #14
                            Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

                            Originally posted by sccavs64
                            ...I've even caught myself a few times cursing out the TV because a CPU team drafted a prospect I found with great late-round value, which I don't remember seeing in previous versions
                            I've had the same thing. I'm actually into the draft this year. And there have been times where I'm hoping a guy falls, but the CPU takes them a few picks ahead of me. I want to throw my controller. But it's awesome that happens.
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                            • IUThor40
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 173

                              #15
                              Re: Franchise drafting/scouting question.

                              Originally posted by NDAlum
                              The blue chip guys all go first as they should. Then it's a crap shoot man.
                              It hasn't happened to me in every draft (I've completed 5), but in 2 of those 5 drafts, there were a handful of guys that were low 60s overall with A potential taken in the 3-6 rounds. That was nice to see as well.
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