Pitcher Stamina in the Playoffs

[HolyStroke3]

Again with this bulls*** ?

[Steven78]

Re: Pitcher Stamina in the Playoffs

Lol is it the same as last year's which was "working as intended?"

[HolyStroke3]

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Yep pitched Sonny Gray in the AL Wild Card game, then game 3 of the ALDS, on full 4 days rest his stamina is less than 75%

Edit: and now for game 4, on 5 days rest, his stamina is ~80%

This is what SDS calls "working as intended" ? A pitcher with an EXTRA day of rest is fatigued?

[Steven78]

Re: Pitcher Stamina in the Playoffs

Yep pitched Sonny Gray in the AL Wild Card game, then game 3 of the ALDS, on full 4 days rest his stamina is less than 75%

Edit: and now for game 4, on 5 days rest, his stamina is ~80%

This is what SDS calls "working as intended" ? A pitcher with an EXTRA day of rest is fatigued?

Yeah last year they said it was working as they wanted it too.

[Spokker]

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I'm guessing they will only allow the starting pitcher for game 1 to be ready for game 5?

[Jr.]

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That's incredibly annoying, if true, because they explicitly stated that they fixed this.

[Steven78]

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I just can't believe nobody has checked this out yet.

[Jr.]

Re: Pitcher Stamina in the Playoffs

I just can't believe nobody has checked this out yet.

I got knocked out in the Wild Card Game of my first playoffs, so I haven't had a chance yet. The hard part is that you actually have to play a full game to test it. The fatigue works when the games are simmed.

[HolyStroke3]

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Now with SIX days rest since his last start, Sonny Gray has ~85% stamina

He pitched 7 innings in ALDS game 4, now slated to start ALCS game 3 a full week later and hasn't recovered full stamina

Awesome idea SDS

Edit: but Henderson Alvarez, who pitched ALDS game 5 two days after Sonny made his start, has the same stamina as Gray before ALCS game 3 (but still only has ~85% stamina after normal 4 days rest)

[RogueHominid]

Re: Pitcher Stamina in the Playoffs

Having just finished the playoffs, it seems like the way the game handles this is that your ace can pitch game one and game 5 and be at 85% stamina, plus or minus, for game 5. If you wanted to pitch your ace in games 1 and 4, you'd be at 55-65%.

Personally, I'm fine just knowing that I need to go into the playoffs with a rotation that I'm very confident in 1-4, and have my #5 and my long reliever just be average. I won the WS with the Dodgers and never had to start McCarthy in the entire playoffs.

[Jr.]

Re: Pitcher Stamina in the Playoffs

Having just finished the playoffs, it seems like the way the game handles this is that your ace can pitch game one and game 5 and be at 85% stamina, plus or minus, for game 5. If you wanted to pitch your ace in games 1 and 4, you'd be at 55-65%.

Personally, I'm fine just knowing that I need to go into the playoffs with a rotation that I'm very confident in 1-4, and have my #5 and my long reliever just be average. I won the WS with the Dodgers and never had to start McCarthy in the entire playoffs.

But with your starter throwing game 5 on 85% rest, you can't really count on him to give you a quality start, can you?

[KBLover]

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Personally, I'm fine just knowing that I need to go into the playoffs with a rotation that I'm very confident in 1-4, and have my #5 and my long reliever just be average. I won the WS with the Dodgers and never had to start McCarthy in the entire playoffs.

Yeah, and I think that's actually an improvement over last year. Seems like in MLB15, I was really feeling what folks were talking about with the stamina.

If I can throw my ace in 1 and 5...that's workable for me, even though not ideal if you want to push him. Ideally, game 4 would be that 85% day, imo.

As far as QS...it depends on the pitcher, but I think 85% of an ace should be able to get at least 6 strong innings, maybe 7+ if you wanted to push it/he's efficient with pitch counts.

I know with Boeve, my ace, I'd take him 85% over the rest of my staff. Granted, his ratings are pretty ridiculous, but still he could go 7 at least if he's on his game. If I make the playoffs with my fantasy Boston team, I'd take 85% of Sale. 6 IP, 8-9 H, 3 R, a couple walks and a handful of K's...that's good enough if the bats are awake and the pen is on point. Herrera/Tazawa for 7th, Chapman 8th, Familia 9th. That works.

[Jr.]

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Yeah, it's just stupid to change how stamina works in the playoffs. It's not like the length of 24 hours is different in October than it is March-September.

I simply can't understand the reasoning behind this and it's infuriating that it wasn't actually fixed when the developers explicitly stated that it was.

[RogueHominid]

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But with your starter throwing game 5 on 85% rest, you can't really count on him to give you a quality start, can you?

I can eek 6 innings out of Kershaw and Kazmir on short rest, perhaps more if they're pitching efficiently. It would be a draw on Ryu and Maeda and probably a no on McCarthy.

[HolyStroke3]

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But the thing is it's not short rest. In some cases it's EXTRA rest and the starter still isn't even at 90% stamina

If your ace was going on 3 days it would be realistic to expect just a solid start, but when he has full or extra rest he shouldn't go into a game at 80 something percent stamina

I can see on regular 4 days having a slight stamina deduction because a starter has made 30+ starts (and I think I read that was part of the idea when this was implemented last year) but when a guy has SIX full days between starts, he should be at 100% stamina