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  • saucerset
    Rookie
    • Jul 2010
    • 482

    #1

    Situation - What would you do?

    I was thinking about this after watching the M's game last night. You're up by one run in the 9th, 2 on, no outs, and Pujols up to bat. He is currently hitting .200 something and 0-3 tonight.

    Do you put him on? You run the risk of giving up the equalizer but it's better than him belting a 3 run shot.

    Do you pitch to him knowing his average is down and he is hitless in the game.

    I like to think that I would have just put him on in hopes that I only gave up maybe one run in the inning. Just knowing what he can do would make me avoid him.
    Cheers!
  • KBLover
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2009
    • 12172

    #2
    Re: Situation - What would you do?

    I try to pitch around him and if I walk him, so be it, but I *hate* just giving away free baserunners without at least giving him a chance to press and chase something he shouldn't.

    Sure, he might get a hit anyway, but at least I gave him a chance to get himself out as well. There's no guarantee I get the next guy either. I load the bases and the next guy might drop a 2-run bloop on me anyway.
    "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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    • UTAllTheWay
      Pro
      • Mar 2008
      • 643

      #3
      Re: Situation - What would you do?

      I faced a similar situation last night against the Yankees. In the bottom of the 11th, tie game, they had a runner on second, 2 outs, and A-Rod comes up. I considered intentionally walking him, but he wasn't having a good game at the plate.

      I pitched to him, and he hit a walk off two-run homer.

      After much consideration, here is what I've come up with:

      - If there are two outs, I walk him because even if I move the runner to third with the walk, they still HAVE to get a base hit to score the runner.

      - If there is one or no outs and first base is open, I walk him. Make the play at him a force play, give yourself a chance.

      - If there is one or no outs and the runners are on 1st and 2nd, I pitch to him. I don't want to move the runner to third and let them score on a pop-up to the outfield if I don't have to.

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52731

        #4
        Re: Situation - What would you do?

        Depends on where the runners are. If they are on 1st and 2nd, then I go ahead and pitch to him in hopes of getting a ground ball double play. If runners are on 1st and 3rd or 2nd and 3rd, then I walk him and set up force at any base and the opportunity at a double play.
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        • HozAndMoose
          MVP
          • Mar 2013
          • 3614

          #5
          Re: Situation - What would you do?

          Originally posted by UTAllTheWay
          I faced a similar situation last night against the Yankees. In the bottom of the 11th, tie game, they had a runner on second, 2 outs, and A-Rod comes up. I considered intentionally walking him, but he wasn't having a good game at the plate.

          I pitched to him, and he hit a walk off two-run homer.

          After much consideration, here is what I've come up with:

          - If there are two outs, I walk him because even if I move the runner to third with the walk, they still HAVE to get a base hit to score the runner.

          - If there is one or no outs and first base is open, I walk him. Make the play at him a force play, give yourself a chance.

          - If there is one or no outs and the runners are on 1st and 2nd, I pitch to him. I don't want to move the runner to third and let them score on a pop-up to the outfield if I don't have to.
          Scenario one completely depends on who the runner on 3rd and pitcher/(catcher to some extent) are. You load the bases now you can't accidentally miss and hit the batter, can't walk the batter, can't give up a wild pitch/passed ball. You now have to get the out.

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          • UTAllTheWay
            Pro
            • Mar 2008
            • 643

            #6
            Re: Situation - What would you do?

            Originally posted by HozAndMoose
            Scenario one completely depends on who the runner on 3rd and pitcher/(catcher to some extent) are. You load the bases now you can't accidentally miss and hit the batter, can't walk the batter, can't give up a wild pitch/passed ball. You now have to get the out.
            True. Excellent point.

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            • reyes the roof
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2009
              • 11526

              #7
              Re: Situation - What would you do?

              I can't think of a whole lot of scenarios where I'm not going to go after a .200 hitter. If he beats me then so be it

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              • kenp86
                MVP
                • May 2008
                • 2979

                #8
                Re: Situation - What would you do?

                Pitch him low and with breaking pitches. Double play
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                • bestbrother
                  Pro
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 773

                  #9
                  Re: Situation - What would you do?

                  Id walk him, the inevitably... give up the Grand Slam, or balk in a run (or 2)

                  Tough innings generally end up rough for me

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                  • Beatles
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 413

                    #10
                    Re: Situation - What would you do?

                    Pujols stinks so pitching to him is and was the right call. Not walking Trout is what made me scratch my head. He got a single anyway but still, I walk him every time and take my chances with Pujols.

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                    • briguy4747
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 224

                      #11
                      Re: Situation - What would you do?

                      In real life, the Mariner's closer, Cishek, obviously did NOT pitch Pujols correctly, to give him a home run pitch !!! Should have been low and away pitches throughout his at-bat !! And Blue Jays manager, Gibbons, not bringing in Osuna in the bottom of the 9th on Sat, was a mistake also !! You go with the best pitcher available at the time, who is more likely to send the game to extra innings !! Gibbons is not a good decision-making manager !!

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                      • Mike Lowe
                        All Star
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 5286

                        #12
                        Re: Situation - What would you do?

                        He's an easy double play. If you walk him, a single beats you. Under no circumstances would I intentionally load the bases w zero outs in that situation.

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