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  • SuperSeahawks
    MVP
    • Jul 2009
    • 1335

    #1

    Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

    I've got a dilemma in my Twins franchise. It's the 2nd season of the franchise and we are right in the middle of the playoff chase at this moment. I only play about 10 games per season, but in the games that I've played, I've been terrible hitting with RF Miguel Sano. He's the best hitter on the team ratings wise and leads the team in HR's (not the best batting average though), but I only have 1 hit with him in the few games that I play. I'm not sure if I'm just in a slump or if I really can't hit well with him. I do a lot better with guys like Brian Dozier and Chris Carter (traded from the Brewers).

    So what would you do? Trade Sano or keep him if you struggle when usering him? If I do trade him, I would be in the offseason or season 3 trade deadline at the latest. Any input would be helpful!
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  • scooterperpetual
    Pro
    • Aug 2015
    • 811

    #2
    Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

    Originally posted by SuperSeahawks
    I've got a dilemma in my Twins franchise. It's the 2nd season of the franchise and we are right in the middle of the playoff chase at this moment. I only play about 10 games per season, but in the games that I've played, I've been terrible hitting with RF Miguel Sano. He's the best hitter on the team ratings wise and leads the team in HR's (not the best batting average though), but I only have 1 hit with him in the few games that I play. I'm not sure if I'm just in a slump or if I really can't hit well with him. I do a lot better with guys like Brian Dozier and Chris Carter (traded from the Brewers).

    So what would you do? Trade Sano or keep him if you struggle when usering him? If I do trade him, I would be in the offseason or season 3 trade deadline at the latest. Any input would be helpful!
    I mean realistically I would say base it more off sim stats if you only play 10 games, if you played every game then it would be another story. I would keep him and use him next year and play more games to practice using him.

    If you still cant hit with him at deadline and he isnt amazing in sim then I would trade him.
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    • Panopticism
      Rookie
      • Oct 2014
      • 40

      #3
      Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

      It's probably a mental thing. There's a good chance that if you replace him with some other power hitter, the results will be similar. Try adjusting your expectations and fooling around with different approaches to your at-bats.

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      • JWDixon120
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        • Jul 2012
        • 802

        #4
        Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

        I would use him until his contract year and trade him than to avoid w big contract.


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        • Ghost Of The Year
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          • Mar 2014
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          #5
          Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

          I recently started a Rockies season & I don't know if it's just a slow start by Carlos Gonzalez or if he's just one of those guys whose stance I just can't seem to get comfortable with, but if I were to go into season 2 with Colorado (which I'm not), I'd trade him in a heartbeat.
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          • Bobhead
            Pro
            • Mar 2011
            • 4926

            #6
            Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

            I did just that. I couldn't hit a lick with Yoenis Cespedes, so I traded him for AJ Pollock.

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            • Azbronco
              Rookie
              • Feb 2014
              • 18

              #7
              Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

              I had that problem with Paul Goldschmidt last year. I think it was mental--I wanted something big from him every time he was up.


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              • richmondn96
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                • Aug 2010
                • 566

                #8
                Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

                Same for me with Big Papi. I moved him down a spot in the lineup and it actually helped. You might try that to take some pressure off him. Since you play so few games, it sounds like trading him would be more of a detriment to your team.

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                • awffltony77
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 1005

                  #9
                  Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

                  Originally posted by SuperSeahawks
                  I've got a dilemma in my Twins franchise. It's the 2nd season of the franchise and we are right in the middle of the playoff chase at this moment. I only play about 10 games per season, but in the games that I've played, I've been terrible hitting with RF Miguel Sano. He's the best hitter on the team ratings wise and leads the team in HR's (not the best batting average though), but I only have 1 hit with him in the few games that I play. I'm not sure if I'm just in a slump or if I really can't hit well with him. I do a lot better with guys like Brian Dozier and Chris Carter (traded from the Brewers).

                  So what would you do? Trade Sano or keep him if you struggle when usering him? If I do trade him, I would be in the offseason or season 3 trade deadline at the latest. Any input would be helpful!
                  Same same same issue here, man. I struggled BAD with him. Then I'd start to press and do even worse.......Its his stance. I swear. I've gotten a little better, though.

                  I feel your pain. And I'm not trading him.
                  Are you using the default roster? Most rosters I've looked at (and I've download dozens just to look at Sano), his vision is at like 16. The Hybrid has him at about 28 or so. My advise is to edit that to around 25-35 (or whatever you want its your franchinse) and then spend a few hours in BP. I was around .085-1-4 through April, striking out over 50% of his ABs.....Well into June now Im sitting .230-12-28. Not great, but not fakey horrid, were getting there....

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                  • awffltony77
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 1005

                    #10
                    Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

                    Originally posted by awffltony77
                    Same same same issue here, man. I struggled BAD with him. Then I'd start to press and do even worse.......Its his stance. I swear. I've gotten a little better, though.

                    I feel your pain. And I'm not trading him.
                    Are you using the default roster? Most rosters I've looked at (and I've download dozens just to look at Sano), his vision is at like 16. The Hybrid has him at about 28 or so. My advise is to edit that to around 25-35 (or whatever you want its your franchinse) and then spend a few hours in BP. I was around .085-1-4 through April, striking out over 50% of his ABs.....Well into June now Im sitting .230-12-28. Not great, but not fakey horrid, were getting there....

                    Stupid side note: I am on a laptop, positioned to my right. I clicked this topic, took a called strike 3 with Sano, then turned my head right again and read this lol......
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                    • NDAlum
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                      • Jun 2010
                      • 11453

                      #11
                      Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

                      Just cheat and be his hitting coach and change his stance. That way you can likely hit a little better with him. There's a definite visual hindrance to some stances IMO. It took me quite a few games to get halfway comfortable with his stance. I tend to struggle with guys who are closed off.
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                      • HartmanTeets6
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 302

                        #12
                        Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

                        One thing I like (and sometimes hate) about this game is the streaks players go on. Xander Bogaerts was hitting .198 at the end of April. He's my #3 hitter and has incredible contact ratings. As a young 22/23 year old, I wanted him to be my #3 hitter for the next 10+ years. I was running out of patience when all of a sudden he got hot. I'm now 3 games away from the all-star break (July) and he's hitting .301. He hit over .400 in May. Sometimes it just takes one or two 2-3 hit games and they get hot and stay that way.

                        That being said, if you can trade him for 2 players who you hit better with (young) I would. There are some guys, usually lefties, who I hit .300 with, regardless of how bad their ratings are. Jarrod Dyson and Blake Swihart are both hitting for me.

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                        • SuperSeahawks
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 1335

                          #13
                          Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

                          Originally posted by awffltony77
                          Same same same issue here, man. I struggled BAD with him. Then I'd start to press and do even worse.......Its his stance. I swear. I've gotten a little better, though.

                          I feel your pain. And I'm not trading him.
                          Are you using the default roster? Most rosters I've looked at (and I've download dozens just to look at Sano), his vision is at like 16. The Hybrid has him at about 28 or so. My advise is to edit that to around 25-35 (or whatever you want its your franchinse) and then spend a few hours in BP. I was around .085-1-4 through April, striking out over 50% of his ABs.....Well into June now Im sitting .230-12-28. Not great, but not fakey horrid, were getting there....
                          I'm using OSFM 3.5 and the sliders are default with hitting at veteran and pitching at allstar (it's my first year playing the Show since 2010). I've been having fun messing with several teams trying to find 1 I like.
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                          • MindBeats
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 365

                            #14
                            Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

                            Originally posted by richmondn96
                            Same for me with Big Papi. I moved him down a spot in the lineup and it actually helped. You might try that to take some pressure off him. Since you play so few games, it sounds like trading him would be more of a detriment to your team.
                            Yup, same thing with me. I just CANNOT hit with Papi. It's so frustrating. I even moved him to the minors for a week just to get him going, but it's so hard to hit with him.

                            On the other end, I seem to hit godly with Travis Shaw (even moved him to 3rd spot on the lineup cuz he's been that good)
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                            • RogueHominid
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                              • Aug 2006
                              • 10900

                              #15
                              Re: Would you trade your best hitter if you can't hit with him?

                              Another thing you can try is to adjust his swing to a type that you hit well with.

                              Players alter their swings all the time, and especially young players are often asked to tinker with their swing to make it easier to repeat consistently.

                              If you edited this player's swing, you could retain the value he brings to the club in sim stats, plus get better production in your played games.

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