Still too many 23+ year old's in offline franchise drafts

[bigd51]

Re: Still too many 23+ year old's in offline franchise drafts

isn't this caused by the fact human scouting 'creates' too many players to be drafted in a given year and they get kept in a pool and aged a year?

I think I recall another thread on that with the recommendation that you scout only a few days and/or just scout every other year and let the draft pool autopopulate..

If anyone recalls...

There were talks about this last year, but I can't recall the general consensus to a viable alternative.

I do remember that in last years game, if you set scouting to manual and left your scouts with no objection up to the draft (essentially, not using scouting at all), the CPU generated players' would be shown with their real ratings like blue-chippers, or fully scouted players despite not being fully scouted. Kinda took the fun outta drafting, to me, when every player on the board is shown with their true ratings.

[KBLover]

Re: Still too many 23+ year old's in offline franchise drafts

There were talks about this last year, but I can't recall the general consensus to a viable alternative.

I do remember that in last years game, if you set scouting to manual and left your scouts with no objection up to the draft (essentially, not using scouting at all), the CPU generated players' would be shown with their real ratings like blue-chippers, or fully scouted players despite not being fully scouted. Kinda took the fun outta drafting, to me, when every player on the board is shown with their true ratings.

That took one part of the mystery away, but development is still a craphsoot/up for grabs.

I don't think that would work in this year's game. I had started this approach (no scouting) in my carryover, and when I got to the draft, I had like no kids with any information at all (so at least you might not get perfect info anymore), and since I wasn't discovering, I had a very shallow pool to deal with, which was mostly leftover kids from the pool prior (and had a craptastic draft as a result).

But I'm not sure if "discovering" creates too many players, especially since there (still!) isn't enough players to cover all seven rounds for whatever reason. Plus, there were still "extra" players from the last draft (and I didn't "discover" the prior year under MLB15 either), which is the "talent" I had to pick from.

[bobloblah1980]

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It's a combination of both this year I've found. If you discover prospects it over populates the draft. But if you don't discover players you will literally have no prospects to scout and the draft is a completely blind draft where you will not know any rating go whatsoever ever.. it is kinda messed up this year. It really needs to be overhauled in my opinion

[NDAlum]

Re: Still too many 23+ year old's in offline franchise drafts

This is one area they need to address. I would love one single draft pool with the guys who pull out actually make sense.

[countryboy]

Re: Still too many 23+ year old's in offline franchise drafts

This is one area they need to address. I would love one single draft pool with the guys who pull out actually make sense.

The draft really needs to be looked at next year.

My wishes:

* Better scouting with more information
* Remove/significantly lower older players from draft (23 year olds)
* Remove International Players from the draft
* Would like to see some type of presentation
* Addition of colleges for players drafted
* Ability to add drafted players to your existing roster

[KBLover]

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If they take international players out, then they need a posting system or something.

I get they don't go to the amateur draft process...so they need to be in another process or we'll never have another foreign player in our franchises, short of editing. That's also unrealistic.

[countryboy]

Re: Still too many 23+ year old's in offline franchise drafts

If they take international players out, then they need a posting system or something.

I get they don't go to the amateur draft process...so they need to be in another process or we'll never have another foreign player in our franchises, short of editing. That's also unrealistic.

I wasn't suggesting we get rid of International Players and I'm sure that if SCEA does go the route of removing international players from the draft, that they will add some posting system, or at least add International players to the free agent list.

[bigd51]

Re: Still too many 23+ year old's in offline franchise drafts

Maybe the 80/20 scale introduction is a good sign to come with getting those overhauls. Here's hoping.

Oh, and I can confirm that players, specifically blue chips, who carry over to the next draft DO age... but their ratings stay the same. So they are getting zero benefit from staying in school, just a year older.

[KBLover]

Re: Still too many 23+ year old's in offline franchise drafts

I wasn't suggesting we get rid of International Players and I'm sure that if SCEA does go the route of removing international players from the draft, that they will add some posting system, or at least add International players to the free agent list.

I hope you're right.

I presume there's a reason why they go to the draft...thinking maybe that was the only (easy/non-break-something-else) way to get them in the game.

[countryboy]

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I hope you're right.

I presume there's a reason why they go to the draft...thinking maybe that was the only (easy/non-break-something-else) way to get them in the game.

SCEA was more than likely focused on other aspects of the game and not franchise and thought the quickest and easiest way of getting future International players into the game was have them go through the draft.

I really expect that to change one of these upcoming years, hopefully next year.

[NDAlum]

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No matter what this area NEEDS to be addressed. I'm sure they have the #'s on how many people go 3+ years into a franchise...I'm hoping they aren't so small they just forget this group of customers.

[Tweeg]

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I guess I'll resurrect this thread to see what people are doing about the prospects that are over 20 years old, overall in the 40s, and potential in the 90s.

I was thinking of implementing a system where players 21 and over with a potential over 85, must have their current overall within 25 points of their potential. For example - player is 22, 50 overall, 89 potential. Since he's not within 25 of the potential, I would drop his potential to 75.

I see it as a way to implement a bust mechanic, instead of this guy coming onto the scene when he's 30. I don't mind a few guys having a decent run when they debut late, but it should be largely based on injuries and opportunity - not because his initial overall to potential rating said he would be there at that age.

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[KBLover]

Re: Still too many 23+ year old's in offline franchise drafts

I see it as a way to implement a bust mechanic, instead of this guy coming onto the scene when he's 30. I don't mind a few guys having a decent run when they debut late, but it should be largely based on injuries and opportunity - not because his initial overall to potential rating said he would be there at that age.

I simply pretend that's the case and move on. I drafted one of these last year in my MLB16 franchise. I put in the draft write up that he suffered a big injury and is trying to recover and get his career back on track and that my team took a flyer on him with our last pick in the 6th round (since we all know the draft doesn't have a late 7th round )

Otherwise, I stash them and the game does whatever. If they make it, even late (in my carryover, I had a 33 year old rookie reliever) then great. If not, then they didn't overcome the odds and so it goes.

[BigOscar]

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Another obvious issue is the lack of thought put into the first names of the international prospects. My draft is full of asian players with names like "Harvey Ikeda", "Walter Chung" and "William Ma". Clearly they went to the effort to separate what are sensible last names, but not first names. That might work if they were asian-american, but people actually born in asia tend to have asian names more often than not.

[Tweeg]

Re: Still too many 23+ year old's in offline franchise drafts

Another obvious issue is the lack of thought put into the first names of the international prospects. My draft is full of asian players with names like "Harvey Ikeda", "Walter Chung" and "William Ma". Clearly they went to the effort to separate what are sensible last names, but not first names. That might work if they were asian-american, but people actually born in asia tend to have asian names more often than not.

Billy Ma has a nice ring to it. He sounds like a star.