User Gameplay Complaint

[JWDixon120]

Okay so first off let me say I love this game and everything in it. I've played the series since day 1 and have always used the generic controls etc Zone swinging and Meter pitching. I've started to play DD this week and really enjoy it a ton. My only issue is A LOT of the users I play are using the directional hitting which seems unfair to me. When I'm on zone I have to focus on everything on a pitch and square the ball up to hit something solid. When people on directional they seem to hit pitches like low, outside change ups 450 feet pull-side. Meanwhile I can get a pitch on the inner half, square it up perfect, good contact, 110 MPH and pull it foul. To me that seems like I'm being punished for using zone hitting. Anyone else feel this way?

[rjcoco]

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I see where you are coming from, but I don't see it as a disadvantage since you could switch to it as well. But I am right there with you!

[JWDixon120]

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I see where you are coming from, but I don't see it as a disadvantage since you could switch to it as well. But I am right there with you!

Yep. Just frustrating at times.


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[bcruise]

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Okay so first off let me say I love this game and everything in it. I've played the series since day 1 and have always used the generic controls etc Zone swinging and Meter pitching. I've started to play DD this week and really enjoy it a ton. My only issue is A LOT of the users I play are using the directional hitting which seems unfair to me. When I'm on zone I have to focus on everything on a pitch and square the ball up to hit something solid. When people on directional they seem to hit pitches like low, outside change ups 450 feet pull-side. Meanwhile I can get a pitch on the inner half, square it up perfect, good contact, 110 MPH and pull it foul. To me that seems like I'm being punished for using zone hitting. Anyone else feel this way?

Just so you know, there's no way you can tell which interface someone else is using unless they themselves communicate it to you. For online head to head the opponent's swing analysis always shows PCI in the middle regardless of where they were actually aiming, so it can give off the appearance of all of your opponents center-swinging. Just because you always see the PCI in the middle does not mean every single one of your opponents is using directional. If your corner pitches are constantly getting hammered then it's almost a certainty that they aren't.

I think Cardinalbird5 did a youtube video about that topic at some point.

[KBLover]

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Directional uses a random PCI placement based on the hitter's ratings, difficulty, and sliders.

I don't know much about DD or what difficulty/sliders it plays on.

I don't think Directional is the only one with random PCI placement vs controlled PCI.

As far as it being unfair - it's a trade off. Directional gives up control of the PCI (so its "easier") but the exchange is that same no control - pitch down the middle could be missed by the PCI while as a Zone user, you're all over it.

Of course, there's always RNG even if the PCI is centered on a pitch, but that applies to all interfaces.

[JWDixon120]

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Just so you know, there's no way you can tell which interface someone else is using unless they themselves communicate it to you. For online head to head the opponent's swing analysis always shows PCI in the middle regardless of where they were actually aiming, so it can give off the appearance of all of your opponents center-swinging. Just because you always see the PCI in the middle does not mean every single one of your opponents is using directional. If your corner pitches are constantly getting hammered then it's almost a certainty that they aren't.



I think Cardinalbird5 did a youtube video about that topic at some point.

Didn't know this. Thank you


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[RockPowderDownLoL]

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Just so you know, there's no way you can tell which interface someone else is using unless they themselves communicate it to you. For online head to head the opponent's swing analysis always shows PCI in the middle regardless of where they were actually aiming, so it can give off the appearance of all of your opponents center-swinging. Just because you always see the PCI in the middle does not mean every single one of your opponents is using directional. If your corner pitches are constantly getting hammered then it's almost a certainty that they aren't.

I think Cardinalbird5 did a youtube video about that topic at some point.

I don't think that is true about corner pitches, in fact, I believe it's the opposite. If your corner pitches are getting hammered it is because they are using directional. The PCI on zone does not even go all the way into the corner(s) or even above or below(at least not the sweet spot) I've seen guys hit fastballs that I tried throwing as balls above the zone about 3-5 inches and they hit them out of the park. The thing I hate about directional is you don't have to be particularly accurate with your pci because you don't have one. If I knew for sure what interface my opponent was using I wouldn't see it as a disadvantage but a lot of guys are now switching interfaces in game, sometimes multiple times.

[JWDixon120]

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I don't think that is true about corner pitches, in fact, I believe it's the opposite. If your corner pitches are getting hammered it is because they are using directional. The PCI on zone does not even go all the way into the corner(s) or even above or below(at least not the sweet spot) I've seen guys hit fastballs that I tried throwing as balls above the zone about 3-5 inches and they hit them out of the park. The thing I hate about directional is you don't have to be particularly accurate with your pci because you don't have one. If I knew for sure what interface my opponent was using I wouldn't see it as a disadvantage but a lot of guys are now switching interfaces in game, sometimes multiple times.

For example I was playing two days ago and I there a low outside change that hit the very edge of the low outside corner. Borderline strike/ball. The guy swings early with Rizzo and the ball EXOPLODES for a 446 ft hr pull side. Meanwhile if I even swing at that pitch the best I can hit it with good timing is a dribbler to the catcher.

Luckily, not to brag since I've played mlb for so many years I can pitch and still succeed by throwing a lot of balls out of the zone. Low change ups are deadly. Struck out 4 in the first inning after a passed ball and than struck out the next 4 over the next 1.1 IP as well to start out the game. I had16 Ks through 7 and than he quit .


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[Mercury112491]

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Huh? You can certainly move your PCI to cover outside or inside pitches out of the zone with the zone interface.

And remember directional users timing window is much smaller than zone. And if pitches in great location are getting hammered routinely then you're probably playing zone and they're looking for the pitch there. Directional might get lucky once in awhile on a great located pitch but it won't be something they do regularly.


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[RockPowderDownLoL]

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I disagree. To me it so obvious when my opponent is using directional. They strike out a lot but hammer the ball when they make contact. Again, I know the PCI will go to the corners but if you look closely, turn your pci on, pre-pitch the pci does not go all the way into the corner(the sweet spot). I'd post a video or a screenshot but i don't have that capability. I am using wedge PCI btw.

[Clonefan84]

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For example I was playing two days ago and I there a low outside change that hit the very edge of the low outside corner. Borderline strike/ball. The guy swings early with Rizzo and the ball EXOPLODES for a 446 ft hr pull side. Meanwhile if I even swing at that pitch the best I can hit it with good timing is a dribbler to the catcher.

Luckily, not to brag since I've played mlb for so many years I can pitch and still succeed by throwing a lot of balls out of the zone. Low change ups are deadly. Struck out 4 in the first inning after a passed ball and than struck out the next 4 over the next 1.1 IP as well to start out the game. I had16 Ks through 7 and than he quit .


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The thing about swinging early is when you swing early you actually make contact with the ball slightly before it crosses the plate, so therefore since all pitches break late and that particular pitch is a changeup, he is actually making contact with the ball when it's a bit higher than where the display shows it, which allows him to get a bit under the ball and smack it. I use zone and I have hit that exact pitch out too, but only if I'm early. If it's good timing I usually smack it oppo for a base hit or line out.

[BENVCR]

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Once you figure out someone's interface settings(can usually tell by what they swing at/hit), just never pitch in the zone.

[iamgramps]

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I strictly use zone. I was playing DD online a few days ago and my opponent got so upset because he thought I was using directional because I was smashing his high inside fastball. I told him I was sitting on it using zone hitting, but he quit and called me a cheater.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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Just so you know, there's no way you can tell which interface someone else is using unless they themselves communicate it to you...

Sure you can.
The players who whoop you are using directional.
The players who you whoop are using zone.

[KBLover]

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Sure you can.
The players who whoop you are using directional.
The players who you whoop are using zone.

Yep - and it's never because the other guy might be good or just having a good day or good at hitting what you threw.

It's either because he's a filthy directional user or a cheater.

I think people forget winning 60% of the time is AWESOME in baseball...but leaves 4 times in 10 where it's just not your day.