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  • Gagnon39
    Windy City Sports Fan
    • Mar 2003
    • 8544

    #1

    Pitchers fatigue.

    I'm currently in mid-September in my franchise and I've been noticing that most of my starters do not have full energy on their scheduled starts of late. I'm hoping that this is programmed in the game this way and if so it's something especially cool that I've never known existed.

    Does pitcher fatigue recover slow toward the end of the year? And more specifically does it depend on how often you use them (innings pitched) throughout the regular season? If so, kudos to you SCEA. I, like the real-life Cubs am going to start using a sixth man in my rotation to save my starters' arms for the postseason.
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  • PhilliesFan13
    Banned
    • May 2009
    • 15651

    #2
    Re: Pitchers fatigue.

    Originally posted by Gagnon39
    I'm currently in mid-September in my franchise and I've been noticing that most of my starters do not have full energy on their scheduled starts of late. I'm hoping that this is programmed in the game this way and if so it's something especially cool that I've never known existed.

    Does pitcher fatigue recover slow toward the end of the year? And more specifically does it depend on how often you use them (innings pitched) throughout the regular season? If so, kudos to you SCEA. I, like the real-life Cubs am going to start using a sixth man in my rotation to save my starters' arms for the postseason.
    How deep have they gone in their previous starts? I am in late July and see this a bit with mine if they pitched deep in the game their last time out.

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    • KBLover
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 12172

      #3
      Re: Pitchers fatigue.

      Originally posted by Gagnon39
      I'm currently in mid-September in my franchise and I've been noticing that most of my starters do not have full energy on their scheduled starts of late. I'm hoping that this is programmed in the game this way and if so it's something especially cool that I've never known existed.
      I see this more with long stretches without days off.

      Seems every year my teams get a 20+ day stretch without a day off. By about the 10-12th day, they aren't going to be full on their usual turns.
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      • Jr.
        Playgirl Coverboy
        • Feb 2003
        • 19171

        #4
        Re: Pitchers fatigue.

        Originally posted by Gagnon39
        I'm currently in mid-September in my franchise and I've been noticing that most of my starters do not have full energy on their scheduled starts of late. I'm hoping that this is programmed in the game this way and if so it's something especially cool that I've never known existed.

        Does pitcher fatigue recover slow toward the end of the year? And more specifically does it depend on how often you use them (innings pitched) throughout the regular season? If so, kudos to you SCEA. I, like the real-life Cubs am going to start using a sixth man in my rotation to save my starters' arms for the postseason.
        Are you playing more games without rest? I just finished a stretch of 33 games in 34 days and had to rotate in a 6th starter multiple times to give an extra day of rest for my starters.
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        • JHedges2
          MVP
          • Jan 2007
          • 4651

          #5
          Re: Pitchers fatigue.

          This is super cool IMO.

          I don't understand how these developers are SO good compared to the likes of FIFA missing blatantly obvious features (i.e. stat tracking, transfer log, etc.).
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          • EWRMETS
            All Star
            • Jul 2002
            • 7491

            #6
            Re: Pitchers fatigue.

            Pitching rotations could use a lot of work. I don't understand how there is no way to skip a starter or change the order of the rotation (unless I am missing something).

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            • KBLover
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 12172

              #7
              Re: Pitchers fatigue.

              Originally posted by EWRMETS
              Pitching rotations could use a lot of work. I don't understand how there is no way to skip a starter or change the order of the rotation (unless I am missing something).
              Yeah a "next starter" selector like in OOTP would be nice along with an optional 6th spot or a "use LR as 6th starter" toggle.
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              • forme95
                MVP
                • Nov 2013
                • 3118

                #8
                Re: Pitchers fatigue.

                This happens all season. You get into any stretches longer then 6 days, and your starters aren't fully rested. However the cpu starter is always 100%

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                • mrsaito
                  Pro
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 743

                  #9
                  Re: Pitchers fatigue.

                  Originally posted by JHedges2
                  This is super cool IMO.

                  I don't understand how these developers are SO good compared to the likes of FIFA missing blatantly obvious features (i.e. stat tracking, transfer log, etc.).
                  Actually I think that the FIFA fatigue engine is pretty good. I had a BPL team that was deep into the domestic tournaments as well as the Champions League and by the end of the season everybody was exhausted. I couldn't even beat bottom of the table BPL teams even though I had been in first place most of the season.

                  I started a new season and I am proactively sitting guys out entire games in order to survive the long haul.

                  As far as the other problems you mention, agreed.

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                  • JHedges2
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 4651

                    #10
                    Re: Pitchers fatigue.

                    Originally posted by mrsaito
                    Actually I think that the FIFA fatigue engine is pretty good. I had a BPL team that was deep into the domestic tournaments as well as the Champions League and by the end of the season everybody was exhausted. I couldn't even beat bottom of the table BPL teams even though I had been in first place most of the season.

                    I started a new season and I am proactively sitting guys out entire games in order to survive the long haul.

                    As far as the other problems you mention, agreed.
                    Sorry, I wasn't referring to their fatigue engine. I don't really have any issues with that. I meant more in terms of just simple things that should be included (see above) that aren't.

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                    • forme95
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 3118

                      #11
                      Re: Pitchers fatigue.

                      So if you dont mind me asking. When you have to rotate the 6th man in, do you do it in the pregame screen, then keep moving the next guy up till you go back to 5, or do you just go into the Rotation screen and move the pitchers?
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                      Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
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                      MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                      Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                      • KBLover
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 12172

                        #12
                        Re: Pitchers fatigue.

                        Originally posted by forme95
                        So if you dont mind me asking. When you have to rotate the 6th man in, do you do it in the pregame screen, then keep moving the next guy up till you go back to 5, or do you just go into the Rotation screen and move the pitchers?
                        I check stamina in pregame and then back out and move pitchers.

                        I move the guy who just pitched to the spot I will put the 6th guy (which is also the scheduled starter's spot).

                        For example:

                        1. Boeve
                        2. Heredia
                        3. Huff
                        4. Mota
                        5. Bartlett <- just pitched

                        LR with 80 STA: Luis

                        Let's say Boeve needs another day because I stretched him last time because he had a chance to get 25 K's (sadly, he ended up with "just" 23, what, you thought I was making that up?).

                        I'll move Bartlett to 1, Boeve and co. down:

                        1. Bartlett <- just pitched
                        2. Boeve
                        3. Heredia
                        4. Huff
                        5. Mota

                        Then I'll swap in the 6th man, in this case Ozzie Luis.

                        1. Luis <- "sixth starter"
                        2. Boeve
                        3. Heredia
                        4. Huff
                        5. Mota

                        Temp LR: Bartlett


                        So next game, Beove will go on 5 days rest, Bartlett recovers for his next outing and goes back to #1, and the rotation will go on. Yeah, Bartlett will look like "the ace" and morale might get jacked around for a bit - but whatever. I'd rather them depressed than at 70% stamina

                        If this happened before the All-Star Break, I'll use that time to reset the rotation. Otherwise, I'll just carry on until/if playoffs arrive or I need Luis to fill in again, or an injury/transaction disrupts things.
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