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  • Impetuous65
    MVP
    • Feb 2015
    • 1451

    #1

    HDR Physical Based Rendering?

    Will we get both in this year's game? SDS, have been implementing PBR in phases (small team) Will HDR implementation hinder PBR integration? If we get HDR, I'm hoping we get an HDR menu(bright/darkness) and nit count.
  • tnixen
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 3184

    #2
    Re: HDR Physical Based Rendering?

    Originally posted by Impetuous65
    Will we get both in this year's game? SDS, have been implementing PBR in phases (small team) Will HDR implementation hinder PBR integration? If we get HDR, I'm hoping we get an HDR menu(bright/darkness) and nit count.
    I would like to think that all first party games released in 2017 and beyond must have HDR support. Also I think HDR and PBR are two completely different things. I will be highly disappointed if MLB The Show 17 does not include some type of HDR support! I bought my 4K HDR Sony TV and The PS4 Pro specifically with MLB The Show in mind. Although I must admit even MLB The Show 16 looks wonderful even though it does not have HDR or even native 4k. Well it up converts it to 4K but that is not really the same.

    Here's hoping for Native 4K/60 HDR gameplay!

    I guess we will all find out very soon and I would be lying if I said I was not getting really excited and anxious

    Man I love this game!!!!
    Last edited by tnixen; 01-24-2017, 12:02 PM.

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    • marinofan
      Rookie
      • Jun 2007
      • 451

      #3
      Re: HDR Physical Based Rendering?

      It's the end of January and no concrete info. I am also waiting to see the visual upgrades with the ps4 pro

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      • Impetuous65
        MVP
        • Feb 2015
        • 1451

        #4
        Re: HDR Physical Based Rendering?

        Originally posted by tnixen
        I would like to think that all first party games released in 2017 and beyond must have HDR support. Also I think HDR and PBR are two completely different things. I will be highly disappointed if MLB The Show 17 does not include some type of HDR support! I bought my 4K HDR Sony TV and The PS4 Pro specifically with MLB The Show in mind. Although I must admit even MLB The Show 16 looks wonderful even though it does not have HDR or even native 4k. Well it up converts it to 4K but that is not really the same.

        Here's hoping for Native 4K/60 HDR gameplay!

        I guess we will all find out very soon and I would be lying if I said I was not getting really excited and anxious

        Man I love this game!!!!
        I know that HDR and PBR are 2 different things, this is why I asked. They are a small team and they need to focus their resources, which is why PBR is done in phases per development cycle.
        Last edited by Impetuous65; 01-27-2017, 07:01 PM.

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        • MythicalGnome
          Banned
          • Mar 2015
          • 271

          #5
          Re: HDR Physical Based Rendering?

          A small team? I thought MLB was like 80 people or something?

          A small team in development terms is 15-20 people. This is not a small team.

          A smaller budget than AAA for sure.

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          • tnixen
            MVP
            • Oct 2011
            • 3184

            #6
            Re: HDR Physical Based Rendering?

            Originally posted by MythicalGnome
            A small team? I thought MLB was like 80 people or something?

            A small team in development terms is 15-20 people. This is not a small team.

            A smaller budget than AAA for sure.
            Actually the MLB The Show development team is very small compared to other games like NBA2K for example which probably has at least double if not more of MLB The Shows development team. If only MLB The Show had as many developers as 2K does imagine how much more they could get down in each game cycle.

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            • capa
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 5321

              #7
              Re: HDR Physical Based Rendering?

              You would think that Sony had a corporate directive for all their video games being developed in 2016 and released in 2017 code for HDR/4K. I would expect that, but what do I know.

              All I know is that if the Show is released and does not take advantage of this for the PS4 Pro, it is a huge miss. HDR/4K is one of the "big" technology jumps for 2017...for a title under the Sony brand to not incorporate would be very odd...

              C

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              • Impetuous65
                MVP
                • Feb 2015
                • 1451

                #8
                Re: HDR Physical Based Rendering?

                Originally posted by capa
                You would think that Sony had a corporate directive for all their video games being developed in 2016 and released in 2017 code for HDR/4K. I would expect that, but what do I know.

                All I know is that if the Show is released and does not take advantage of this for the PS4 Pro, it is a huge miss. HDR/4K is one of the "big" technology jumps for 2017...for a title under the Sony brand to not incorporate would be very odd...

                C
                I think this may be a case by case basis or a production issue. Lets take 3D for example, Playstation 3D, directive did not affect all the titles only a select few e.g. KillZone 3, MLB the Show, Socom fell under the umbrella of 3D and MOVE SUPPORT other games didn't have to have those features. If Sony is going to mandate such a directive they need to provide additional personnel, instead of laying off redundant positions at SDS. That's if additional personnel is needed to get these features up and running in time for beta code.

                If I had to choose between the 3 as you put it for the PRO

                In order of importance too me

                Expansion of PBR
                4K if you have the PRO even if its 4K checkerboard
                HDR with a nit menu, or
                HDR with no menu

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                • Spokker
                  Pro
                  • May 2014
                  • 615

                  #9
                  Re: HDR Physical Based Rendering?

                  Originally posted by marinofan
                  It's the end of January and no concrete info. I am also waiting to see the visual upgrades with the ps4 pro
                  Graphics will probably be the last thing they talk about. I'm thinking mid March. That's how it was last year.

                  The game MUST have a PS4 Pro. That's all we know right now.

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                  • tessl
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5683

                    #10
                    Re: HDR Physical Based Rendering?

                    As a guy who has never been afraid to swim against the tide - I think graphics are the best thing about the show. If graphics remain the same and they improve gameplay with additions to franchise I'll be happy.

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                    • marinofan
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 451

                      #11
                      Re: HDR Physical Based Rendering?

                      It will be a big shame if HDR or pro enhancements are not included.

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