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  • ninertravel
    MVP
    • Aug 2015
    • 4833

    #1

    Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

    Anyone know if the new 10 day Disabled list rule will be in the game?? or will it be still the 15 disabled one the old rule
  • countryboy
    Growing pains
    • Sep 2003
    • 52720

    #2
    Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

    Originally posted by ninertravel
    Anyone know if the new 10 day Disabled list rule will be in the game?? or will it be still the 15 disabled one the old rule
    It is unknown at this point.

    We will probably have to wait until the Franchise Stream/Blog before finding out this answer.
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    • BigOscar
      MVP
      • May 2016
      • 2971

      #3
      Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

      Hopefully they up the amount of injuries that happen during games and warm ups so this is actually an issue, as on 16 you can go a season with only a couple of minor injuries if you actually play the games (but strangely get the right amount if you sim)

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      • ninertravel
        MVP
        • Aug 2015
        • 4833

        #4
        Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

        yeah agree need more injuries, and more serious injuries like Tommy John Surgery, they really gotta update the injury types too, also the stupid dumb commentators that say things after a injury that are untrue 'we seen him injured before the game' ummm no you didn't, have them comment if you put someone in the game injured too, that he might not be feeling 100% today.those sort of things

        because of this 10 day disabled list now expect to see A LOT OF people on it in real life now, because a lot of day to day injuries will be on the 10 day now, especially if pitchers are only gonna miss 2 starts, teams will use that more

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        • BigOscar
          MVP
          • May 2016
          • 2971

          #5
          Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

          Originally posted by ninertravel
          yeah agree need more injuries, and more serious injuries like Tommy John Surgery, they really gotta update the injury types too, also the stupid dumb commentators that say things after a injury that are untrue 'we seen him injured before the game' ummm no you didn't, have them comment if you put someone in the game injured too, that he might not be feeling 100% today.those sort of things

          because of this 10 day disabled list now expect to see A LOT OF people on it in real life now, because a lot of day to day injuries will be on the 10 day now, especially if pitchers are only gonna miss 2 starts, teams will use that more
          Yup, people are constantly getting retroactively put on the 15 day DL in real life, that will only become even more common with the 10 day DL and the show really needs to take that into account. At the moment you can go an entire season without really worrying about injuries(if you don't sim), one serious injury is seen almost as a complete shock instead of just part of business. It's an area that really needs addressing as it's such a huge part of squad building, it can shape an entire season, or even a career for a pitcher especially.

          Really hoping for a complete overhaul of injuries this year, hopefully adding recurring injuries and just a lot more niggling concerns that keep people out for a few weeks. The introduction of the 10 day DL is a great ecxuse for them to look at it and sort it out

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          • knich
            MVP
            • Jan 2005
            • 1116

            #6
            Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

            Originally posted by BigOscar
            Yup, people are constantly getting retroactively put on the 15 day DL in real life, that will only become even more common with the 10 day DL and the show really needs to take that into account. At the moment you can go an entire season without really worrying about injuries(if you don't sim), one serious injury is seen almost as a complete shock instead of just part of business. It's an area that really needs addressing as it's such a huge part of squad building, it can shape an entire season, or even a career for a pitcher especially.

            Really hoping for a complete overhaul of injuries this year, hopefully adding recurring injuries and just a lot more niggling concerns that keep people out for a few weeks. The introduction of the 10 day DL is a great ecxuse for them to look at it and sort it out
            Isn't there a slider for injury frequency in 16?

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            • Bobhead
              Pro
              • Mar 2011
              • 4926

              #7
              Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

              Originally posted by knich
              Isn't there a slider for injury frequency in 16?
              Yes, but that doesn't really address any of the things he listed. You're only choices are increasing all the injuries evenly, decreasing all injuries evenly, or doing nothing. The slider won't help you re-balance the different types of injuries, and it won't change the fact that the game has no recurring or chronic injuries at all.

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              • tessl
                All Star
                • Apr 2007
                • 5683

                #8
                Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

                I must be the only guy who saw injuries. Maybe manage mode had something to do with it. In fact I saw injures on plays where the player didn't do anything which would seem to have caused an injury.

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                • JTommy67
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 598

                  #9
                  Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

                  In future years they ought to spend a little more time coming up with ways to show the injuries in real time, and a few more cut scenes showing the hurt player with the trainers.

                  The current text-adventure pop-up box may be convenient, but seems oddly out of place since we have play-by-play announcers and graphical capabilities.

                  It's getting old.

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                  • timothythefirst
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 68

                    #10
                    Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

                    Originally posted by JTommy67
                    In future years they ought to spend a little more time coming up with ways to show the injuries in real time, and a few more cut scenes showing the hurt player with the trainers.

                    The current text-adventure pop-up box may be convenient, but seems oddly out of place since we have play-by-play announcers and graphical capabilities.

                    It's getting old.
                    I don't think there's ever been a sports game where when an injury occurs, you can actually see why the injury occurred. Like there'll be plays where the batted ball will hit the pitcher and he might get hurt (but more often the ball just bounces off of him and he fields it like nothing happened), or plays on madden where someone gets hit-sticked and injured.

                    But I mean, on any sports game, you might have a guy get an injury that says "sprained ankle", go back and watch the replay... and there's no "sprained ankle" animation at all or anything that even looks different from all the plays where they don't sprain their ankle.

                    even in real life when injuries happen with no apparent cause (like when a guy runs hard down the first base line and comes up limping cause he hurt his hamstring) there's usually a moment when the guy winces in pain or at least acknowledges the fact that he's hurt.

                    but whenever people complain about "not enough injuries" in sports games and the devs try to fix it we end up with guys tearing their ACL for no apparent reason every other game you play and then everybody complains that there's too many injuries.

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                    • Armor and Sword
                      The Lama
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 21789

                      #11
                      Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

                      I agree that injuries need to become more dynamic. Lingering hamstring, minor rehab assignments to get back into shape before coming back to Big League Team.

                      But as far as frequency? I had no issues on 16. When playing games injuries are at 8 (and I saw my share of injuries in game), when I sim games around the league I use my sim slider set with injuries at default 5 and see plenty of guys around the league on the DL.

                      That was my experience with 16.

                      But I would love to see a refresh of injury types, and injuries lingering and affecting performance until fully healed, rehabbed etc.
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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52720

                        #12
                        Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

                        Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                        I agree that injuries need to become more dynamic. Lingering hamstring, minor rehab assignments to get back into shape before coming back to Big League Team.

                        But as far as frequency? I had no issues on 16. When playing games injuries are at 8 (and I saw my share of injuries in game), when I sim games around the league I use my sim slider set with injuries at default 5 and see plenty of guys around the league on the DL.

                        That was my experience with 16.

                        But I would love to see a refresh of injury types, and injuries lingering and affecting performance until fully healed, rehabbed etc.
                        I've been wanting lingering injuries for a while now. Say one of your pitchers is pitching well for you the whole season but has a shoulder injury that causes him to miss the end of the season. Do you resign/keep him on your roster next year hoping that he bounces back from the shoulder injury and replicates his pitching stats from the previous season? Or do you let him go and let someone else roll the dice on him?

                        This level of decision making is sorely missing from franchise mode. I'm really hoping its added in this year.
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                        • El_MaYiMbE
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1427

                          #13
                          Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

                          Originally posted by countryboy
                          I've been wanting lingering injuries for a while now. Say one of your pitchers is pitching well for you the whole season but has a shoulder injury that causes him to miss the end of the season. Do you resign/keep him on your roster next year hoping that he bounces back from the shoulder injury and replicates his pitching stats from the previous season? Or do you let him go and let someone else roll the dice on him?

                          This level of decision making is sorely missing from franchise mode. I'm really hoping its added in this year.
                          Lingering injuries is the #1 thing I wish Franchise mode had. I agree 100% with what you are saying, but I would be happy with just baby steps....

                          Pull a hammy, 15 day DL is over with, will probably be ready in the next 4-5 days but still at risk for aggravation if you play him before then.

                          I would also like to see things be a little more dynamic that is almost thinking outside the box. Like if your guy gets plunked in the elbow in first AB, he should wear an elbow guard for next few days to protect sore elbow. Or a guy jams a wrist sliding into second, he should wear wrist tape for the next 2 weeks to deal with nagging injury.

                          And depending on body part, the player should play differently.

                          Nagging hammy = run slower
                          Sore wrist = less power (small reduction)
                          Sore shoulder = arm strength in field
                          Etc....

                          None of these are enough to keep player out of the lineup, but just something to consider when you submit your lineup on a daily basis.

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                          • TattooedEvil
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 795

                            #14
                            Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

                            i dont see why it wouldnt be. was completed as a change back in Dec i think which is plenty of time

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                            • forme95
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 3118

                              #15
                              Re: Will the new Disabled List rule be in?

                              As common as Tommy John's is, you would think it would be a injury all its own lol

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